Oleksandr Usyk vs Michael Hunter on the Loma vs Sosa card

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  1. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, it will end quicker than Mchunu.

    But this is still one of the best opponents Usyk could have got, and it is also a good idea to fight an American for marketing reasons.
     
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  2. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I definitely believe Beterbiev beat Usyk and kinda beat him up tbh. Impressive for the smaller man. He is the modern day Marciano.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Oh by about 20 or 30 spots at CW.:lol:
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Hunter fought a lot of quality guys in the amateurs

    Olympic Games results
    2012 in London, Great Britain (as a Heavyweight)

    Lost to Artur Beterbiyev (Russia) 10-10+
    World Championships Results
    2007 Quarter-finalist in Chicago, United States (as a Super Heavyweight)

    Defeated Andy Ruiz Jr. (Mexico) RSC-OS 3
    Defeated Kurban Gunebakan (Turkey) 30-7
    Defeated Jassem Delavary (Iran) 19-13
    Lost to Islam Timurziev (Russia) 15-22
    2009 in Milan, Italy (as a Super Heavyweight)

    Lost to Roberto Cammarelle (Italy) 1-8
    Other Amateur Results
    2006 World Junior Championships Bronze medalist in Agadir, Morocco at Super Heavyweight (+91 kg).

    Defeated Andrey Volkov (Russia) 32-26
    Defeated Pavel Kulda (Lithuania) RSC 4
    Lost to Cristian Ciocan (Romania) 15-21
    2007 US National Champion at Super Heavyweight, defeating Mike Wilson 25-24 in the final.

    2007 US Olympic Trials Gold medalist at Super Heavyweight.

    Defeated Nate James 23-11
    Defeated Andrew Shepherd 18-4
    Defeated Kimdo Bethel Boykin 16-6
    Defeated Kimdo Bethel Boykin 14-7
    2008 1st America´s Olympic Trials Silver medalist in Port of Spain, Trinidad & Tobago at Super Heavyweight.

    Defeated Oscar Rivas (Colombia) 11-4
    Defeated Clayton Laurent (Virgin Islands) 25-5
    Lost to Robert Alfonso (Cuba) 1-9
    2008 2nd America´s Olympic Trials Bronze medalist in Guatemala City, Guatemala at Super Heavyweight.

    Defeated Didier Bence (Canada) 4-3
    Lost to Jose Payares (Venezuela) 3-10 (failed to qualify for the 2008 Olympics)
    2008 World Cup participant in Moscow, Russia at Super Heavyweight.

    Lost to Niyaz Fayzulin (Russia) 7-14
    2009 US National Champion at Super Heavyweight, defeating Javier Torres 31-12 in the final.

    2011 US National Golden Gloves Champion at Heavyweight, defeating Robert Jekabson by points in the final.

    2011 US Olympic Trials Gold medalist at Super Heavyweight.

    Defeated Andrew Tabiti 24-12
    Defeated Steve Geffrard 19-12
    Defeated Jordan Shimmell 23-8
    Defeated Joseph Williams 28-17
    2012 US National Champion at Heavyweight, defeating Javonta Charles 26-7 in the final.

    2012 America´s Olympic Qualifier Gold medalist in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil at Heavyweight (91 kg).

    Defeated Ryan Charles (St Lucia) 14-5
    Defeated Mario Figueroa (Nicaragua) 25-7
    Defeated Julio Castillo (Ecuador) 14-8
    Defeated Yamil Peralta (Argentina) 12-10

    This is his partial record from a different site.

    2012-08-01 200 Artur Beterbiyev 200 London GBR L by pts. +10:10 3-3
    2012-03-03 201 Javonta Charles 201 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by pts. 26:7 ?-?
    2012-03-02 201 Steve Geffrard 201 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by pts. 16:9 ?-?
    2012-03-01 201 Robert Jekabson 201 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by pts. 17:12 ?-?
    2012-02-29 201 Clinton Nelson 201 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by RSC ?-?
    2012-02-28 201 Gabriel Yellowowl 201 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by RSC ?-?
    2011-04-30 201 Robert Jekabson 201 Indianapolis, IN USA W by dec. 3-?
    2011-04-29 201 James Shorter 201 Indianapolis, IN USA W by RSC-2 3-?
    2011-04-28 201 Jake Sahlaney 201 Indianapolis, IN USA W by RSC-3 ?-?
    2011-04-27 201 Terry Carter 201 Indianapolis, IN USA W by RSC-3 3-?
    2011-04-25 201 Victor Gomez 201 Indianapolis, IN USA W by RSC 1 3-?
    2011-03-26 201 Deivis Julio 201 Cumana VEN L by pts. 8:2 ?-?
    2009-09-01 202 Roberto Cammarelle 202 Milan ITA L by pts. 8:1 ?-?
    2009-06-13 202 Javier Torres 202 Denver, CO USA W by pts. 31:12 ?-?
    2009-06-12 202 Javon Wallace 202 Denver, CO USA W by RSC 1 (1:09) ?-?
    2009-06-10 202 Cam Awesome 202 Denver, CO USA W by DQ ?-?
    2009-06-09 202 Andrew Shepherd 202 Denver, CO USA W by pts. 11:1 ?-?
    2009-02-27 202 Anthony Crampton 202 Dublin IRL W by RSC 2 3-3
    ? 2008-12-10 201 Niyaz Fazullin 201 USA L by pts. 14:7 4-2
    2008-03-18 202 Robert Alfonso 202 Port of Spain TTO L by pts. 9:1 ?-?
    2008-03-17 202 Clayton Laurent 202 Port of Spain TTO W by pts. 25:5 ?-?
    2008-03-15 202 Oscar Rivas 202 Port of Spain TTO W by pts. 11:4 ?-?
    2008-02-29 202 Shamil Gadzhiev 202 Novosibirsk RUS W by pts. 26:6 4-2
    2008-02-24 202 Denis Sergeev 202 Magnitogorsk RUS W by pts. 23:13 4-2
    2007-11-24 202 Rustam Rygebayev 202 Zunyi CHN W by pts. 18:9 4-2
    ? 2007-11-22 202 Denis Sergeev 202 Beijing CHN L by pts. 21:18 3-1
    ? 2007-11-21 202 Rustam Rygebayev 202 Beijing CHN W by pts. 24:20 3-1
    ? 2007-11-19 202 Paramjeet Samota 202 Beijing CHN W by RSCO 2 3-1
    2007-11-01 202 Islam Timurziev 202 Chicago, IL USA L by pts. 22:15 ?-?
    2007-10-31 202 Jassem Delavary 202 Chicago, IL USA W by pts. 19:13 ?-?
    2007-10-27 202 Kurban Gunebakan 202 Chicago, IL USA W by pts. 30:7 ?-?
    2007-10-24 202 Andres Ruiz Ponce 202 Chicago, IL USA W by RSCO 3 ?-?
    2007-08-25 202 Kimdo Bethel 202 Houston, TX USA W by pts. 14:7 4-2
    2007-08-22 202 Kimdo Bethel 202 Houston, TX USA W by pts. 16:6 4-2
    2007-08-21 202 Andrew Shepard 202 Houston, TX USA W by pts. 18:4 4-2
    2007-08-20 202 Nate James 202 Houston, TX USA W by pts. 23:11 4-2
    2007-06-08 202 Mike Wilson 202 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by pts. 25:24 4-2
    2007-06-06 202 Cam Awesome 202 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by pts. 17:12 ?-?
    ? 2007-06-06 201 Cam Awesome 201 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by pts. 17:12 4-2
    2007-06-05 202 Josh Parsons 202 Colorado Springs, CO USA W by RSC 2 ?-?
    2007-05-13 202 Didier Bence 202 Regina CAN L by pts. 30:28 4-2
    2007-05-11 202 Didier Bence 202 Regina CAN W by pts. 44:34 4-2
    ? 2007-01-20 202 Jonte Willis 202 USA L by pts. +16-16 4-2
    2006-11-20 202 Tyson Fury 202 London GBR L by pts. 2:1 4-2
    2006-10-28 202 Robert Montgomery 202 Toronto CAN W by RSCI 3 4-2
    ? 2006-10-07 202 Jonte Willis 202 USA W by pts. 10:8 4-2
    ? 2006-10-07 202 Alex Compian 202 USA W by RET-1 (1:48) 4-2
    ? 2006-10-07 202 Clarence Tillman 202 USA W by pts. 5:0 4-2
    2006-09-16 202 Cristian Ciocan 202 Agadir MAR L by pts. 22:15 ?-?
    2006-09-14 202 Pavel Kulda 202 Agadir MAR W by RSC 4 ?-?
    2006-09-12 202 Andrey Volkov 202 Agadir MAR W by pts. 32:26 ?-?
    2006-04-29 202 Felix Stewart 202 Omaha, NE USA L by dec. 4:1 4-2
    2006-04-28 202 Erick Correa 202 Omaha, NE USA W by RET 4 4-2
    2006-04-27 202 Andrew Shepherd 202 Omaha, NE USA W by dec. 5:0 4-2
    2006-04-26 202 Kimdo Bethel-Boxkin 202 Omaha, NE USA W by dec. 3:2 4-2
     
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  5. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    this is pretty cool to see all 3 of these guys on hbo on the same card.....these guys are going to get a good push
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great card all with good names, good work by HBO this is the type of quality I wanna see from them.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Hunter was holding and spoiling like crazy against Beterbiev. Artur wanted to fight but Hunter was falling in and grabbing a hold of him like a gay octopus so he couldn't get off with his own shots or catch him with counters. Hmmm. I wonder where he learned that? And Beterbiev was not even a natural HW either. He was much more formidable at LHW, whereas Hunter campaigned up at SHW for many years fighting against behemoths like Timurziev, Cammarelle, Tyson Fury, Alfonso etc.

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  8. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hunter is solid, more of a prospect where Usyk is possibly the top guy in the division.

    All 3 of the fights are similar on this card. Solid opponents for the favorites but not likely to pull an upset.
     
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  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, fully agreed. Gonzalez has the best chance of the three in terms of pulling the upset against Gvozdyk, but it's still only a small chance.
     
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  10. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd agree with Gonzalez having the best chance at an upset here. Even with the favorites being such comfortable favorites its still a nice card.
     
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  11. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hunter landed a clean right hand, no score, stopped watching. That amateur scoring system was hot garbage.
     
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  12. WhataRock

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    Maybe Im getting mixed up here but my memory is trying to tell me that one of their fights was pretty clear cut and the other could have gone either way. And didnt he put a count on Usyk in the first one?

    I distinctly remember reading an interview where Usyk says Beterbiev was the best amatuer he fought.
     
    WhataRock, Feb 23, 2017
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  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Err.. how the hell do you know if it scored or not? Oh, so you don't even understand how the scoring works..
     
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  14. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I thought Usyk was on the Golovkin-Jacobs undercard. **** this works out better for me since I planned on going to the Lomachenko fight.
     
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  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I don't for a second believe it could've gone either way, it was a breaking down by Beterbiev. Usyk beat Beterbiev convincingly in the World Am Champs though, a year before.
     
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