Oleksandr Usyk vs prime Joe Frazier

That'd be a great fight because Usyk's weak point is smaller guys.

Could look a lot like Usyk-Chisora, as Joe has around the same reach.

Usyk is a much more athletic guy, but Joe could pop around and set things up and be on his toes.

I'd love to see it.

 

ATG swarmers/aggressive fighters are bad news for a light hitting boxer like Usyk, and it's not just because of the Dubois controversy i've been saying this for ages.

Fighters like Tyson, Frazier, in their prime are too much for Usyk to handle, Usyk is an ATG Cruiserweight but he isn't the H2H monster at Heavyweight that people like to claim.

 

That's a tough one for me. But I think Joe could take it. His busy bobbing and waving and swarming style might just be the worst possible matchup for Usyk, especially that Joe's tank was immense.

 

Just watching Usyk-Fury 2 again.

I love Usyk he’s brilliant. Prime Frazier is all sorts of wrong for him imo. The work rate, body attack, chin, power and attrition is much too much for an at best moderate punching albeit highly skilled technician.

Frazier UD.

 

Yeah I fancy Usyk. Not sure Frazier has the engine to keep up with Usyk's workrate nor the footwork to close him down. Usyk's chin is better and he's physically stronger.

 

Frazier by UD, body punching slows down Uzyk’s legs. Uzyk does not have the punch to repel Frazier. Plays out like the first Ali/Frazier fight.

 

I think the opposite I think if anything Frazier is one of the few Heavyweights who could keep up with Usyk's workrate Frazier gets stronger as the fight goes on and has some of the best stamina of all time for a Heavyweight.

 

I think to keep Frazier off, you need a strong straight backhand and a strong uppercut.

Ali had an unusual ability to absorb punishment and i don't think Usyk can quite handle that volume of punishment.

IMO Frazier wins by close decision. Usyk throws some lovely uppercuts late in the night but few and far in between. Frazier can outwork Usyk IMO and win by a close decision although i would never count out a brilliant guy like Usyk.

 

Frazier takes this. I don't think Usyk would keep him at bay once he got his engine up to full chat and kept the throttle pinned. And the body shots.....

 

Usyk throws more than Frazier does, and Usyk is famous for becoming better as the fight wears on. He's gotten a lot of stoppages or near-stoppages late when the other guy has been ground to dust by his relentless workrate.

 

Hard to tell. The best boxers besides Ali were Foreman and Norton. Frazier got absolutely hammered by Foreman and never fought Norton. Usyk never fought a swarmer like Frazier...Usyk has the advantage of being a SP....Frazier is left hand reliant.

Usyk on points for me.

 

Against Frazier that's not happening though IMO Frazier doesn't slow down in fights and gets stronger as the fight goes on Frazier has had quite a few stoppages late on in fights and of course came on very strong in the FOTC vs Ali which was a war.

I think an elite swarmer like Frazier is a bad style match up for a boxer type like Usyk specifically I think fighters like Frazier, Tyson, are some of the worst style match ups for Usyk IMO.