Oleksandr Usyk vs prime Joe Frazier

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Aug 26, 2023.


Who wins ?

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  1. Frazier

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  2. Usyk

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  1. Claude

    Claude Member Full Member

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    What do you mean "naturally"? Uysk has to actively bulk up to that weight while only fighting 12 rounds. Ali fought 15 rounders while weighing 220-225 in the 70s. Look at his fight vs Mac foster.
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    He weighed 226 pounds while looking decently fit.
     
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  2. boxingexpert733

    boxingexpert733 Member Full Member

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    fraziers style is all wrong for him. frazier wins UD
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Usyk has knocked guys out with "a jab" before
     
  4. Claude

    Claude Member Full Member

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    By guys you mean Daniel Dubois? Cause that’s the only instance I can think of.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    Yeah I am referring to Dubois, a guy larger and stronger than the version of Foreman that sent Frazier to the shadow realm. That guy.
     
  6. Claude

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    So based off one fight in his entire career, you’re saying uysk’s jabs are equal to power shots?
     
  7. MannyMMA

    MannyMMA Canelo fans are male swifties Full Member

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    Usyk is my guy, always has been, but this fight in particular feels so much more tougher for him stylistically than even him vs Tyson or Lennox. I got Frazier.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    I'm saying that Usyk hits a lot harder than you think.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Guys, plural, who is this list of guys he's knocked out with a jab because I'm only aware of Dubois lol
     
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That didn’t knock him out though.

    We know that.

    That was a psychological issue.

    He simply gave up.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why would you think that?
     
  12. Claude

    Claude Member Full Member

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    I was comparing his workrate to Ali’s and Frazier’s, not their power.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Usyk causes these kinds of issues in fighters ;)
     
  14. BCS8

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    Awesome. Then you will note his workrate is a good deal higher.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He’s great.

    But that wouldn’t have deterred a guy who desperately wanted to come out for the 15th round in Manila.
     
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