Oleksandr Usyk vs these slick boxers

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  1. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Usyk thrives on slow, powerful plodders, but how would he fare against slick technicians.
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    Spinks
    Qawi
    J Nelson
    Byrd
    Jones
    Toney
    Oquendo
    Adamek
    H Fury
    T Fury
     
  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beats all of them.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk is pretty vulnerable against pressure. As are most if not all pure boxers. That said, a good pressure fighter is the rarest style of fighter in boxing. Being a pressure fighter is a tough grueling style to fight. Most guys just dont want to go through that kind of fight everytime in the ring.

    You have to say that a HW or CW version of Chavez would give Usyk nightmares. And so would Joe Frazier.
     
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  4. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    The obvious one to me who could beat Usyk on your list is T Fury.

    Although Fury's a very good Technical fighter I give Usyk an edge in out and out "disiplined" boxing ability.

    However Fury IMO matches Usyk or exceeds him in most other departments Heart, Size, Weight, gas tank(?), Ring IQ. And Fury's ability to be successful either with slick boxing or rough house trench warfare, or a combination of both with everything in-between other than massive single punch power.

    The other thing in Usyk's favour is he's never been on his arse or seriously hurt. His chin so far has been granite. While Fury has been floored on numerous occasions but Fury showed excellent recovery powers to then get back up and pretty much destroy his opponents. If he's considered lacking somewhat in the chin department he more than makes up for it in his recovery powers

    I think at this moment in time I'd slightly favour Fury but it's by no means a given. Usyk will never ever cease to suprise and amaze me in that no matter what the task he can always find a way.( And convincingly too)
    And he's willing (as Fury is too) to go anywhere on this mortal coil to do it.

    Great fight if and when it happens if they both remain unbeaten in their re-matches, Bigger than the Usyk - AJ fight we've all just witnessed.
     
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  5. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the **** can you say Fury has more heart than Usyk. There is no basis for that whatsoever.

    Usyk has higher boxing IQ and a better gas tank. Idk where you even would get the idea that he gas a better gas tank than Usyk, seriously. Fury throws 300-400 punches a fight while Usyk throws 800-1000 most of thr time
     
  6. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    Beats everyone except Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury wins by UD.
     
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  7. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spinks = USKY KO 3
    Qawi =USKY TKO 9
    J Nelson = NELSON MD
    Byrd = USKY UD
    Jones = DRAW
    Toney = USKY TKO 11
    Oquendo = OQUENDO TKO 2
    Adamek = ADAMEK UD
    H Fury = USKY UD
    T Fury = FURY KO 6
     
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    Tyson KO1
     
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  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is that T.Fury is his prime or post coke binge past prime T.Fury?

    Usyk beats them all.
     
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  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He said matches or exceeds. Either way, Fury has had to dig deep to come up off the canvas in fights. Usyk has not. So, I can see giving the edge to Fury in the heart department. Other than that, you are correct. No way to say who has the bigger heart.
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Adamek?
    This gentleman had competed in HW and CW divisions while he had LHW boxer's frame. Smaller than Cunningham, Wlodarczyk and Glowacki frame.
    Adamek's total pro record is 53-6 while from these fights 32 fights he had in LHW division :)with record in LHW 31-1 ( 1 lost fight via decision ).
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From that list Quawi and Toney would be 50-50 fights. Spinks and T Fury should be favoured to win
     
  13. Col Mortimer

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    I said Fury matches or exceeds. IMO he at least matches Usyk in heart in that Fury's had to get off the canvas and continued to win the fight. That takes heart mate. I'm pretty sure Usyk would do the same but untill he ever needs to do so we can't say for certain can we?. Unless you've got a crystal ball...

    Regarding Fury's gas tank, I did put a question mark there when I mentioned it. He's proven so far to have a good tank but weather it's as good as Usyk's I don't know.

    That's probably " How the **** " I've stated these things

    Hope I've made things clearer for you.
     
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  14. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It did but the thing is you said that Fury has more heart than Usyk but then asked a question if Fury has a better gas tank.

    Usyk has displayed good heart in his career (hes never faced adversity like Fury) and Fury has displayed enormous heart throughout his career.

    Fury has displayed good stamina throughout his career (Hes never thrown or moved as much as Usyk in his career), Usyk has displayed enormous stamina throughout his career.

    So for me it's definitive who has more stamina because we've seen Fury tired from throwing 25 punches a round but he has better stamina than most HWs

    Whereas we've never seen Usyk's heart fail him and we'll be able to answer this question once he faces adversity like Fury did in round 12
     
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  15. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What do you think of Usyk vs Andy Ruiz then?