Oleksandr Usyks Specialness

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I started out as a fan of Usyk. Not a raging superfan. But I've been a fan for years. Although I am a bigger fan of Gassiev and was gutted when Usyk comprehensively outclassed him with superior boxing technique and fundamentals.

    4 years ago I said I rate Usyk p4p #1. I said he cleaned out arguably the toughest division in the sport. Few agreed with my assessment as Usyk p4p. It was all about Loma and Crawford despite them having lightyears inferior resumes. Boxing fans are arrogant like that, they think they know more about the sport than they actually do instead of simply going by resumes. Then he went up and dismantled a prime SuperHeavyweight and lifted 3 titles off Joshua. Only thing left is for him to relieve Fury of his title to become undisputed in the two highest weight classes.

    But having previously rated him p4p #1 for many years, his Joshua showing made me realize I had actually underestimated this fighter. I feel like I'm watching history. Having been watching live boxing since the early 2000s I can count on 1 hand the amount of fighters I've seen who were better p4p than this Ukrainian.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    He's special alright thinking he can take on a 300 pound 7'4" Gypsy warrior
     
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  3. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    He is a fighter who doesn’t fit in this era a true warrior. He should be throw back in time about 80 years ago.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Undisputed cruiserweight champ, unified heavyweight champ, boxing's ultimate road warrior, and a legend....in 19 fights!

    His top ten, after 19 FIGHTS....!

    Anthony Joshua 24 (22)-2
    Two-time Unified Heavyweight Champ, wins over Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin, Andy Ruiz, Joe Parker, Kubrat Pulev, Carlos Takam, Charles Martin, and Dominic Breazele

    Mairis Breidis 26 (20)-1
    IBF, WBO, and WBC cruiserweight champion with wins over Krysztof Glowacki, Yuniel Dorticos, Marco Huck, Mike Perez, Manuel Charr, Oranwelaju Durradola, Noel Gevor Mikealyan, Artur Mann

    Murat Gassiev 28 (21)-1
    IBF and WBA Crusierweight champion with wins over Dennis Lebedev, Yuniel Dorticos, and Krysztof Wlodarczyk

    Krysztof Glowacki 31 (19)-3
    WBO cruiserweight champion with wins over Marco Huck, Steve Cunningham, and Maxim Vlasov

    Marco Huck 42 (28)-5
    WBO World cruiserweight champion with 9 title defenses including good wins over Denis Lebedev, Ola Afolabi, and First Aslan

    Toney Bellew 30 (20)-3
    WBC Cruiserweight champion, notable wins over David HayeX2, Nathan Cleverly, IIunga Makabu, Matuesz Mastarnak, Issac Chilemba

    Mike Hunter 20 (14)-1
    Well-liked cruiser and heavyweight contender with notable wins over Martin Bakole, Segey Kuzmin, Isiah Thomas and Alexander Ustinov

    Thabisco Mchunu 23 (13)-6
    Cruiserweight contender with notable wins over Eddie Chambers, Denis Lebedev, and Evgeny Tischenko. Should be the rightful WBC champion at this time but for a Don King screw job

    Derrick Chisora 32 (23)-12
    The heavyweight gatekeeper to the stars. Good wins over Kingpin Johnson, David Price, Artur Szplika, Carlos Takam, Maik Scott, Sam Sexton, Danny Williams, and Ondrej Pala, should have 1-3 wins over top contenders that were denied to him by dodgy judging.

    Johnny Mueller 23 (14)-9
    Underrated cruiser with wins over Matuesz Mastarnak and Kevin Lerena

    I took the time to delineate every opponent to show just how insanely good his top ten wins are AFTER 19 FIGHTS!
     
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  5. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Enjoy Usyk while we still can before he retires. He’s also someone that I was overlooking for years and have only started to really appreciate more and more. An amazing athlete, fighter, and person.
     
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  6. Serge

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    Closest thing we have to a messiah right now

    A man who literally, much to the chagrin of the haters , hasn't put a foot wrong

    And what kind of wretched circus freak wouldn't love Usyk?

    The kind of amoral miscreants who value corruption, deck-stacking, cowardice, refusal to use your passport and fight on a level playing field and fouling and cheating like crazy over honesty, requiring zero advantage be it fair or unfair, bravery, traveling to your opponent's backyard religiously, and winning your fights via clean boxing, pure skill and zero use of illegal tactics

    P4P#2 in just 19 fights
    Unified the CW division in just 15 fights
    Three belt unified HW king in just 19 fights

    Olympic gold medalist
    World Amateur Championships gold & bronze
    European gold & bronze medalist

    Won all those gold medals on the road

    He was robbed in the 2008 Olympics against the eventual semi-finalist that year

    WBC cruiserweight champion
    WBA cruiserweight champion
    IBF cruiserweight champion
    WBO cruiserweight champion
    WBA heavyweight champion
    IBF heavyweight champion
    WBO heavyweight champion

    Unified the CW division in just 15 fights

    Is the three belt unified HW king in just 19 fights

    Won his Olympic gold, World Amateur gold, and European gold on the road

    Won, defended, and unified all his world titles as a pro in his opponent's backyards sans his first defence which was on neutral soil

    Ring Magazine champion at CW
    Ranked #2 P4P by The Ring Magazine
    Winner of the Muhammad Ali trophy

    Beat

    WBA, IBF and WBO champ AJ (24-1) in England
    WBA and IBF champ Gassiev (26-0) in Russia
    Beat WBC champ Briedis (23-0) in Latvia
    Beat WBO champ Glowacki (26-0) in Poland
    Beat former long reigning WBO champ Huck (40-4-1) in Germany
    Beat former WBC champ Bellew (30-2-1) in England
    Beat Michael Hunter (12-0) in the US
    Beat Mchunu (17-2) on neutral soil
    Beat Chisora (32-9) in England

    Has beaten six world champions in 19 fights but it should be seven because Mchunu was robbed by Donald King's judges

    Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (2018)
    ESPN Fighter of the Year (2018)
    Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year (2018)
    CBS Fighter of the Year (2018)
    Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year (2018)
    Boxing News Fighter of the Year (2018)

    P4P#1 funniest boxer on the planet

    P4P#1 most charismatic despite barely being able to speak English

    P4P#1 most humble

    P4P#1 most fearless

    P4P#1 road warrior

    P4P#1 best dancer

    Best southpaw HW ever

    Best engine of any HW champ ever and can throw 1000 in a fight

    Best chin in boxing and has never even been hurt, let alone dropped or stopped despite facing more savage punching KO artists and legit bangers than any current fight you can think of in his last 9 fights

    Shares birthday, height, and reach with the #2 HW GOAT Muhammed Ali

    Has sold out arenas and stadiums in the UK twice (would've been 3 if not for Covid restrictions), Russia, Latvia, Poland, Germany, the US and Ukraine

    Highly athletic, highly skilled, very fleet of hand and foot, high ring IQ, great footwork and punch variety, extremely smooth and fluid in his movement for a big man and just a supremely talented boxer with beautiful skills. He's also very humble and has an immensely likeable personality, is an absolute gent and a scholar both in and out of the ring, bags of charisma, and he is an utterly fearless road warrior

    All achieved in just 19 fights

    #goatstatus

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    Of course you would ''like it'' in the UK

    ''I would like it in the UK because it's a must win fight for AJ''

    Dosser

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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I will and have done so numerous times already become an instant fan of any current fighter who praises or is complimentary about Usyk
     
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  8. rodxd

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    jab and feints and movement and pace
     
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  9. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk caught Joshua after he transformed from NoFear to Fear. Great timing and excellent boxing skills.
    I don't think he would beat the Joshua that fought Whyte or Wlad.
    And if he goes against a big guy that isn't afraid........
     
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  10. doopapoopy

    doopapoopy Member banned Full Member

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    Well you are only partially right. Uysk caught Joshua at the right time. You are wrong about about fighting a big guy who isn't afraid Usyk is 6'3 220 pounds. Despite ESPN acting like you have to be 6'7 to be heavyweight champion this isn't the case. Andy Ruiz is 6'0 tall and beat Joshua. Alexander Povetkin is 6'1 220 and was heavyweight champion.

    Once you are around 6'1/6'2 plus and over 200 pounds you are big enough to be a heavyweight.
     
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  11. doopapoopy

    doopapoopy Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk beating Joshua. Lol now casual fans and or biased boxing fans act like Usyk is something special. Even against Joshua he didn't look impressive. Joshua just looked bad. Usyk landed 20 something percent of his punches against a slow stationary target. That is pitiful .
     
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  12. Mattuhey

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    Usyk is the best boxer in the last 5 years. Yes there are a few more technically superior, plenty with one shot power, but he’s the full package. His mentality is second to none (you reading this Mikey Garcia). Loma, Usyk, Inoue will go down in history as the best of their generation, irrespective of any losses accrued.
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And a new village idiot emerges.
     
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  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact that he did it within 19 fights just how much faith his promoters had in him and how commited they were to backing him.
     
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  15. Jason Gordon

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    He is a legendary champion
     
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