Oliver McCall what happened to him

Is he still fighting? would be a good test for A Joshua

 

McCall signed z rematch while still on rehab institute, was not allowed necessary time 2 train 4 ze f8 and I doubt if he was rehabilit8ed f8 time.

Similar in some ways 2 Lamon Brewster- Wolodimir Klitschko #2 end Harding vs Tarver #2.

 

He wasn't great but he had an ATG chin.

Oliver was also very tough, he never was scared of anyone.

He could've done better had he never touched the cocaine

 

tough son of a gun physically but didn't have it upstairs

 

I hope you aren't trying to claim that Lewis is an ATG. He lost to a crack head in his prime.

 

The Lennox Lewis win was a great victory, yes. But the only other "great" fighter I can assume you're talking about was Larry Holmes. That would have indeed been a great win....About 9 years earlier.... But not only was Holmes ancient, there were many who actually thought Larry had won !!!!

 

Holmes meeting with Evander was three and a half years earlier and the interim was basically keeping active on tomato cans.. He did nothing to earn that shot at McCall.. And Holy won just about every round against that "slightly" better version of Holmes.. The fact that Oliver barely squeaked by the shell of a former champion leaving some to believe that he actually lost does nothing for his legacy and is certainly NOT better than Wlad beating a prime Chris Byrd, David haye or Alex povetkin.

 

I can't believe this is actually turning into an argument. Byrd, Haye, and Povetkin were solid universally recognized top challengers in their primes. Holmes for all his greatness was finished... Period... And once again, it was never fully agreed on as to weather or not Oliver even beat him.. I myself gave the fight to McCall by maybe a point but it was hardly a given. About the only thing I'll concur with is that Oliver's win over Lewis was the best single win between the two men... But from there you'd have to go through about 7 or 8 of Wlads best wins before finally arriving at McCall's #2 and not to mention about 13 or 14 losses for McCall to contend with.. To say that McCall was great or better than Wlad because of the events that occurred on ONE evening is to ignore about 98% of their careers

 

This is the worst strawman argument I've ever heard and damn near bordering trolling. You're using such components as a win over a 45 year old comeback Holmes who hadn't beaten a meaningful opponent in years along with placing more negativity on wlads THREE losses than you are on Oliver's FOURTEEN to argue that McCall was better than Klitschko ??? So what if the 90's were better than the 2000's? Bert cooper fought in the 90's while Vitali klitschko fought in the 2000's. Was cooper better than Vitali just by mere association to a time period? You claim that wlads three losses were worse than McCalls fourteen? Does that include the time when McCall broke down against Lewis and literally started CRYING in the ring? Because don't think that's ever happened in a championship fight before or after... How about McCall getting schooled by Orlin Norris or Joey christjon or mike hunter or have the division for that matter.. Does his one win over a pre-steward version Lewis eclipse Wlads TWENTY SEVEN title fight wins ???

 

:| what a baby....still upset those mean racist Russians stormed over all the brothers lol! I love it

 

McCall shows what a Heavyweight with 'merely' a granite chin and decent power can achieve. That he managed to do what he did with his lack of ability (for the top level) in a strong era for the division, shows how poor the Heavyweight division is generally in relation to the other 'classic' eight.

 

Mcall . vitali h2h and height of accomplishments, but vitali > mcall on aggregate acheivements

McCall would probably destroy vitali, but mcall likely couldnt do what vitali did over such a long length of time, to put it succinctly.

 

Most people would consider the claim that McCall was better than Klitschko a trolling statement. Start a thread on the issue and a "troll" is exactly what you'll be called. If you don't like my tone then maybe you need to grow some thicker skin. Either that or try something other than posting on chat forums.

I saw it live 24 years ago.. And I still say Bert Cooper was nowhere near being in Vitali's league.. Why? Because Cooper's fight with Holy and Vitali's fight with Lewis were not the only evenings that I saw them perform.

Well I disagree. Losing three times ( and avenging one of them ) is a hell of lot better than losing 14. And some of the men McCall lost to were definitely worse than guys like Brewster or Sanders.

I can definitely count on that. A fighter is responsible for his own conditioning and how he chooses to show up come fight night.. Especially in a world championship fight. McCall was so disgraceful that evening that his purse was withheld and rightfully so.. I sympathize to some extent that his life was in shambles at the time, but then he should have done the right thing by pulling out of the fight.

This is flawed logic.. Most people wouldn't even pick McCall to beat Chris Byrd or Alexander Povetkin and ranking him higher than a man who commonly makes a lot of people's top 10 due to a single upset victory ( over a guy who had yet to reach his pinnacle ) is ridiculous. Do you rate Buster Douglas, Leon Spinks and Jim Braddock over Wlad too? Klitschko is a unified lineal heavyweight champion who has been either at or near the top of the division for the better part of 15 years. He has as many world title fight wins as Joe Louis and has beaten probably 5-6 times the number of ranked opponents McCall has beaten. Not to mention less than a fraction of the number of defeats. Go with whatever opinion you choose to stick with, but rating McCall above Klitschko will only invite ridicule..