Olympic Boxing

Standout matches, performances, or competitors?

Also, how deserving was Hasanboy Dusmatov of the Val Barker?

 

I do feel a bit vindicated reading that Shakur acquitted himself well. Not a lot of people believed in him as being even a serious medal threat.

 

I didn't watch most of it myself. The usual as far as the entire Olympics is concerned. Phelps, Bolt, our female gymnast team looked great, as did our basketball team(what a shocker there )

Well. With a lot of the other brackets being tainted by robberies it's hard to argue against it. The Uzbeks definitely dominated the boxing this year, that's for sure.

Want to know what you think about the contentious decisions when you get around to watching the Olympic boxing.


Evgeny Tishchenko v.s Vasiliy Levit(gold medal match)
Tony Yoka v.s Joe Joyce(gold medal match)
Filip Hrgovic v.s Tony Yoka
Hussein Ishaish v.s Mihai Nistor

Have a lot of controversy behind them... Especially the 3 in bold.

 

Yeah, at one point I remember hearing the ESPN talking heads murmuring about how the USA basketball team was only winning by like 15pt margins and were getting "worried". atsch

I'll try and check those out. :good

 

Misha Aloyan will not go pro,he won silver medal in 52 kg category:

"No, I'm after the Olympics not going to professional boxing - said Aloyan -. I stay in the team, I will continue to train and play for Russia Russian Championship, which will take place in November, I will certainly miss -. I will recover is scheduled to begin. to act as early as next year. "

 

Tony Yoka wants to go pro:http://en.rfi.fr/sports/20160822-fre...-olympic-glory

 

Dusmatov getting the val barker trophy topped the olympics off worse than joyce getting robbed, just shows how corrupt it all is, he wouldn't have been even top 5 best boxers in the tournament and literally came out of nowhere until a drug lord paid for their medals

 

they robbed russel vs gaibnazarov and sotomayor, most of the uzbeks were involved in extremely controversial fights, anda drug lord fueled their medals dawg

 

russell robbed the thai so what

 

Team USA didn't have a drug lord to buy their medals did they?

 

You are acting biased, Dusmatov was the perfect balance between good opposition and performance.

 

Please, Dusmatov was easily the best boxer I saw.

 

At the Asia and Oceania Olympic boxing qualifying tournament in China in March, New Zealand's Commonwealth Games gold medallist David Nyika fought a top ranked Uzbekistani, Rustam Tulaganov.
One boxer landed 66 punches to his opponents 46. One boxer failed to make it to the Olympic Games, while the other won an Olympic bronze medal.





It was Nyika who landed 66 shots onto the body and chin of Tulaganov, including a blistering final round in which Nyika landed two and a half times the punches of his opponent. Tulaganov was keeled over, staggerring as he sucked in deep breaths at multiple moments in the second and third rounds, barely staying on his feet.



And yet, when the judges revealed their scores for the fight, those 66 punches meant nothing as Nyika was sent home, his body barely bruised but his mind battered beyond belief.
In the first round, Nyika landed 20 punches to Tulaganov's 16. It should have been a tight round one win to Nyika.
The second saw Tulaganov start with an impressive flurry, dominating the opening minute before Nyika landed a couple of heavy blows and came back. The punch count was 21-20 in favour of Nyika by the end, but you could forgive a judge for thinking Tulaganov had won it.
Round three was one-way traffic, a domination and a boxing clinic as Nyika's powerful left hand jab held Tulaganov at the right distance to land a number of heavy hits. One glancing right to the head had Tulaganov staggering sideways, barely keeping his feet as the judge told him to stand tall.





The fight was scored 29-28 in the favour of the Uzbekistani boxer. It should have been 29-27 Nyika, given the domination of the third round.
Nyika also didn't have the luck of the draw.
Australian Jason Whateley, a boxer Nyika had defeated with ease on two occasions - once while nursing a broken hand - had a friendly draw that saw him ease into the semifinals, where he was belted by Tulaganov. Whateley recovered to win the third place fight-off and book a place to Rio.
Nyika's coach, Rick Ellis, said the standard of judging makes coaching difficult.
"It's very difficult to know what the judges are looking for, what to tell your fighter. What do the judges want?" Ellis said.
"The inconsistency makes it difficult. We knew we won that fight, but by not getting a knock-out it was left to chance.
"It's a sad indictment on our sport."
Irish boxer Michael Conlan spoke out boldly after his surprise defeat at the Rio Olympics, in which, after dominating his Russian opponent, the judges said Conlan had lost.
The Irishman claimed the Amateur International Boxing Association were cheats.
"My dream has been shattered. It's been robbed," Conlan said on live television.
"AIBA are cheats, they're f...ing cheats, simple as that. I'll never box for AIBA again, they're cheating b...ards who are paying everybody."
Conlan now faces disciplinary action from the governing body over his comments, and AIBA president Dr Ching-Kuo Wu staunchly defended his organisation.
"He immediately showed his finger to the referee-judges. Disciplinary action will follow, you can't humiliate in public our judges," Wu said.
"People accusing AIBA of corruption, please give me the evidence. I have no mercy to those [corrupt] people. I hate manipulation, corruption."
Reports suggested AIBA did send home six judges following a number of contentious calls in Rio, as claims of corruption swirled around the tournament.
Boxing New Zealand president Steve Mitchell couldn't address corruption claims, but said he felt for Nyika in particular after his qualification efforts.
"Everyone at Boxing New Zealand feels for David because a lot of people believe he won that fight," Mitchell said.
"AIBA are going to have to work hard to reassure people about the refereeing and judging in our sport. A lot of questions are being asked, particularly after Rio.
"It's important that they address the concerns people have about the standard of officials, and I think they will do that."
Mitchell also said Boxing New Zealand was working to get a kinder pathway to the Olympics in future.
New Zealand boxers used to be able to qualify in an Oceania boxing tournament, but that was set aside in favour of an Asia Pacific route.
Mitchell said that wasn't fair on boxers in the Pacific.
"There is a Joseph Parker on every street corner in the Pacific. We need the pathway in Oceania to support that talent, and at the moment we don't have that," Mitchell said.
"We're working hard to get that pathway to the Olympics back through Oceania."

 

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I didn't see the fight so I can't comment as punch stats alone don't tell the whole story. However, it could be plausible for the Uzbek to win the first two rounds from what information the OP has given.

Other than corruption the two main problems for me on the new scoring system in the amateurs is that judges don't fully get the system and therefore they don't know what to look for. These guys have just been hitting a button when a shot lands, for years. Now they have to look for more subtle things and the scoring is far more ambiguous.

Then there is the fact that the shorter a fight is, the less accurate the 10 point must system is at deducing who has won a fight. Like in the OP's example, the first two rounds appear close, but the Kiwi clearly dominated the third round. If you were to judge the fight as one 9 minute fight instead of 3x 3 minute rounds then it is clear the Kiwi won the fight. However, judging the fight as individual rounds murkys the waters and the winner can be harder to choose. Over the longer haul, 8-12 rounds, this becomes less of a problem as things tend to even out.