Olympic Champions who fail to make the cut at Professional Level

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  1. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it a marketing problem then? Only reason there's more money for him at the Olympics is because he's not fought anyone as a pro. Eddie or Frank would love to match him up in the UK against one of their guys, he'd get more in that 1 fight than he's earned in his career to date.

    My follow up question to that would be why Hrgovic and Zhang and not someone like Jalolov?
     
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  2. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd guess that the Pro game "separates the men from the boys" - with no headgear, different rules and mentality, it's much more physically and mentally demanding.
     
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  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If a businessman like Hearn thought he could make more money with Jalolov than by recycling Chisora or Whyte then surely he would?

    Hearn has definitely made the decision that boxers known to the British people but very average in the ring. Are more appealing than an Uzbek boxer that the "casuals" have never heard of. Hearn aims his product at the "casuals", as they are 95% of his customers.

    I am sure Jalolov would jump at the chance of fighting a Parker for the money Chisora got. He wouldnt turn it down if offered. But he clearly doesnt have the management or sponsorship to get his foot in the door- and Hearn has decided he makes more money from other boxers than him.

    It ultimately comes down to money and revenue generated for the promoters.

    For Jalolov in the absence of any promoter who wants to pay him more than peanuts for fighting in a leisure centre in America against a nobody. He gets more money from the government sport authority for picking up another gold medal.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    To be real, that title was gifted to him on a silver platter.
    And he immediately lost it after defending vs a guy who wasn´t among the top 10.
     
  5. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's hard to make it as a top pro without the right management and promotional team behind you.

    How many promising fighters have had their talent squandered in the pros by a management team that didn't quite understand the pro game and couldn't get their fighter the right fights??

    It takes money to train as a pro fighter. You need financial backing.

    The pro game is different. A promising amateur fighter needs a trainer that really understands the pro game and how it's different than the amateur game. Manny Seward was great at that.

    Not every amateur star really wants to be a top pro. In some countries, amateurs are well treated and popular. Professional boxing is not so mainstream or understood.

    Obviously, there are also guys that just can't physically do it but the reason many amateurs don't do great in the pros goes beyond that.
     
  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Of course he would.

    But, naturally, his fees are going to get paid much better by guys who have a profile already.

    Absolutely - but nationality isn't the crux of it... The likes of Whyte and Chisora are higher profile clients because they already have a decent profile - they're easy to push because they're already known.

    I'm sure he would... But unlike Chisora, he hasn't taken risks (culminating in some losses) and built up a profile that makes him a profitable fight for someone like Parker.

    At the end of the day, if you're bringing in 5% of the PPV buys for a given fight, you're going to have to set your sights low in terms of what it's going to earn you... And realistically, Parker has way more than 20x the name recognition once you get outside of hardcore boxing fans.

    Hearn will, only naturally, see that his fees get paid better if the fight pulls in more money - so he's going to match up his fighters with guys who have a profile already, where possible, it's only natural.

    Of course it does - they're not philanthropists.

    And not just for the promoters, but for the higher profile fighters they represent, too - they're not going to keep and gain new clients if they match their guys up with unprofitable fights.

    It's short sighted, though...

    It's taking those peanuts fights, dominating opponents and becoming the highlight of the undercard that creates profiles - it's very rarely just handed over on a plate.

    You have to build a profile to profit from it... And the profits are huge compared with the amateurs - you just have to do the work to get known before you get access to it.
     
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