Omar Andrés Narváez vs. Naoya Inoue

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  1. Super Hans

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    Monster Inoue makes history!! :deal
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree with IB about Guevara-Yaegashi.

    Guevara beat the holy hell out of Rodriguez the second time around, and looked damned good doing it. Meanwhile, Yaegashi is coming off a royal hiding at the hands of an admittedly ultra-elite Gonzalez. Be interesting to see how much that took out of him.

    Akira's still the favourite, imo...But it's an interesting fight.
     
  3. WildStyle

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    They are world title bouts. Hardly insignificant.
     
  4. WildStyle

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    Narvaez looks OLD in that pic.
     
  5. takahiro-onaga

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    Guevara have 10cm reach advantage. Yaegashi got big problem.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

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    Tough to pick against Narvaez. Only one man has ever punked him around and Inoue moving up 2 divisions is not bantamweight prime Donaire.

    I do think Inoue beats Omar, who has shown glimpses of being ripe for the taking. His age is too scary going into this fight; it has to show eventually. Inoue is dominant in addition to having the frame to move up, theoretically. The fight taking place in Japan has to be the final straw to picking Narvaez if everything else were even regardless.

    I will say I was impressed with Narvaez in his last fight (the rematch). He doesn't yet have problems with "pulling the trigger" and we haven't seen Inoue hurt 115 pounders before. So Narvaez has things going for him.

    The fight will be one of either two extremely different narratives in retrospect, pending the outcome.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    Alright, maybe Yaegashi vs. Guevara isn't a complete mismatch on par with Rigondeaux vs. Amagasa, Linares vs. Prieto, Ioka vs. Perez, Uchiyama vs. Perez, Murata vs. Nicklow, etc - but is, when compared with Narváez vs. Inoue, not a fraction as significant for a host of reasons. Both light and super fly are pretty shallow in h2h talent beyond the approximate top five or so, but in Narváez vs. Inoue you have the cream of the crop squaring off to determine the clear divisional #1. Yaegashi has no business losing to Guevara (yes, thrashing Rodriguez in their rematch looked impressive but he still drew with him before that, and was held to a SD not only by aging 2-time straw champ Rayito Garcia last year but in an 8-rounder this past May by eleven-loss Armando Torres) - and if he does it will be a pretty flukey upset more indicative of Yaegashi not handling the drop back down in weight very well, as opposed to an indication that Guevara was ever on his level of competition when at their respective best.

    That's one, though, Wild - one among the eight bouts you claim are super important and disrespectful to view as lesser than Narváez vs. Inoue or as cringe-worthy examples of world title bouts. That in spite of Rigondeaux being a 1/100 favorite over Amagasa, Ioka 1/40 over J.P. Perez, Uchiyama 1/25 over I.H.E. Perez, etc.

    I'll even throw you a bone and say that Rossel (a longtime belt holder but long among the sport's weakest, feasting on baby-mush competition in exclusively interim title contests) could well lose to Ryoichi Taguchi in another non-mismatch. Still, neither Rossel vs. Taguchi nor Yaegashi vs. Guevara even begin to approach the notability or implications of Narváez vs. Inoue, which is what my original point was in the OP, which you selectively quoted to point out the other two Japanese cards despite me actually mentioning them in the very next paragraph, which you omitted. That is still only two of eight that are even remotely significant/competitive on paper, and both of them combined are less important than Narváez vs. Inoue, to be honest.

    Narváez is, for all his faults (drawing heat much like Chris John and others for mostly holding a title hostage at home; putting on that shameful display and somewhat ****ing on his own legacy in his Donaire cash-grab) someone that has been on top for a very long time and respected, if begrudgingly, by nearly all observers of the global scene. Inoue has generated more international hype than any other recent pro turn except perhaps Lomachenko himself. This is a HUGE event. You're being willfully obtuse if you are really going to sit there and claim not to see how the likes of Rossel vs. Taguchi nor Yaegashi vs. Guevara don't come anywhere near it, for sheer magnitude, as though all three were reducible to all being world title bouts and on those grounds all technically of equatable importance. That isn't how things work, as you full well know.

    Taguchi and Guevara have enjoyed their best wins at domestic level in their respective countries. Neither has beaten a ranked opponent from a nation other than where they hail from, ever (the closest being Guevara's kayo four years ago of Karluis Diaz of Colombia for the vacant WBC Silver belt; with Diaz boasting exactly zero meaningful wins in his life - or Taguchi outpointing some Pacific level Filipino journeymen with double-digit losses). Inoue has already knocked out Adrian Hernandez (the #1 light flyweight as of when they fought) and ranked world contender Basapean.

    Inoeu's résumé in seven fights takes a massive dump all over Guevara's and Taguchi's 48 career bouts combined.
     
  8. VG_Addict

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    What if Roman Gonzalez moves up and fights the winner of this fight?

    What if he wins a title in his fourth weight class?
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    vBookie up:

    [url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=525927[/url]
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Then :bowdown
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    TyC Sports will air this card - presumably live and with complete undercard coverage, being a three-hour broadcast - from 9am-noon local time in Argentina, which is 7-10am EST and 9pm-midnight local time in Japan.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    Actually, scratch that - only Fuji TV will be showing the card live, from 18:00-21:00 local time in Japan. (6pm-9pm in Tokyo; 4-7am EST and 6-9am in Argentina)

    TyC Sports will be starting their delayed broadcast literally the moment Fuji's live coverage wraps up.

    While the card is happening live, TyC will be showing repeats of a Básquet Liga Nacional (Argentine national basketball league) game, followed by a soccer highlights show. :patsch
     
  13. aaronpernell

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    Hoping it doesn't break any rules to ask but does TyC have an online stream or is it strictly a television channel?
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not against the rules, no.

    They used to stream internationally on their website but the feeds are now available by region on an IP restricted basis.
     
  15. aaronpernell

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    Probably have to just catch a replay of the replay. Damn work schedule