Omar Figueroa vacates - Jorge Linares vs Hank Lundy?

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Omar Figueroa is set to vacate his 135 paper belt. This gives way for Jorge Linares to face Hank Lundy for the vacant WBC belt.
    Linares, ranked #2 by the WBC and Lundy #nr 2, have no upcoming fights scheduled and both are looking for that big one
    Meanhile the #1 contender, Daniel Estrada, just got his **** pushed back in by the champ Figueroa. Estrada was the mandatory challenger.

    Linares is on a 6 fight (4KO), win streak after his shocking and disastrous back to back KO losses to Antonio Demarco and Sergio Thompson.
    Linares has looked impressive as of late, beating Nihito Arikawa with relative ease(whom
    Figueroa went life and death with as you all should know) and a vicious KO over Ira Terry, who unfortunately never amounted to much if anything(in the pro circle).

    Hank Lundy on the other hand is on a 3 fight win streak(1 KO) since loosing back to back decisions to Raymundo Beltran and Victor Postol.
    Lundy looked good against Olsegun Ajose and Angelo Santana.




    Ranked #4 by the WBC is former WBC 126 pound(1-1 in D) and 130 pound(3-1 in D) titlist Takahiro Ao.
    I don’t know how he got ranked so high at 135 since he has only fought once at that weight class(16-11-0 Hardly Paredes) :conf
    Linares vs Ao would be big in Japan since Linares has been residing in Japan for years now.
    Takashi Ao is on a 3 fight win streak(1KO) since loosing his 130 pound belt to Gamaliel DIaz by decision,

    Who necks and who R Y picking? :bbb
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Linares late KO
     
  3. Boxing Prospect

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    Linares CAN'T fight Ao (at least in Japan) due to a domestic JBC rule (I can go into detail if you really want).

    Linares Vs Lundy would be TERRIFIC! I'd pick Linares but it's a coin toss.
     
  4. Badbot

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    :think
    I just recently heard about this. I would love to actually know about this rule.
     
  5. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Boxing Prospect

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    Okay.

    In the west, as you know, the promoter and gym aren't related. For example you have Top Rank and Golden Boy fighters both at the Garcia Gym and the Wild Card gym.

    In Japan they use a different system and the JBC enforce a licensing system with the gyms. A boxer is licensed to the gym and the gym is typically also a promoter. Be it Teiken, Watanabe, Ohashi, Ioka, Kadoebi, Green Tsuda, Misako, Celes (etc) every Japanese licensed fighter is licensed to that gym and every gym it's self is licensed

    No Gym is allowed to pit 2 of it's fighters against each other. I assume, though I'm not certain, that it's to stop things like the in house bull we see from Top Rank/Goldeboy/Frank ****** and instead it FORCES promoters to work together.

    Hence you'll never see Ao fight Linares (both Teiken), or Inoue fight Yaegashi (both Ohahsi) or Ioka fight Ryo Miyazaki (both Ioka) or Kotatsu Takehara fight Okello Peter (both green/Midori).

    This licensing is useful for a number of reasons. As mentioned above it forces promoters to work together, it makes it easy to punish "bad gyms" (hence the Kameda gym being closed) and it holds gyms accountable for their fighters.

    Fighters ARE ALLOWED to transfer gyms but usually the gym they are going to needs to pay a transfer fee to the JBC and to the original gym. This stops one gym from building a fighter only to have another one pinch them as they are about to reach the top. A notable transfer in recent times was that or Takashi Miura who went to Teiken from Yokohama Hikari in 2011. Another notable transfer was Tomomi Takano who went to Kyoei last year.

    In the specific case of Linares and Ao they seem to be good friends as well as stable mates.

    Hope that all makes sense.

    Also one thing to add, at the moment there are a few peculiar cases. For example Ryota Murata is a Misako fighter though has his matches made by Teiken I think similarly Shingo Wake is a Koguchi fighter though has the backing of Kyoei (I have a feeling that Koguchi is pretty much a sister gym of Kyoei like Teiken has Osaka Teiken but I'm not certain on that).
     
  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :think
    :good

    The only bad thing i can say about the JBC is that they decided to recognize IBF.
     
  8. killerD

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    I got det. lundy by KO.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

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    My interest in Figueroa vs. Linares would have been, eh, 6.5 out of 10 maybe. My interest in Linares vs. Lundy? Maybe 3.5 out of 10.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

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    Thanks man...
     
  11. STB

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    Tough one to call.

    Reckon Linares stops him
     
  12. Boxing Prospect

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    Always enjoy sharing the different "boxing cultures". I tend to feel the JBC have got a lot of forward thinkers but with Japan being quite a compact country (in terms of where fights are held) I doubt the same sort of control could be run in other places (especially the US).

    Another country worth noting is Thailand, they have televised mismatches week after week after week, if a US fan was in Thailand they'd never watch the sport despite it being on free to air TV.
     
  13. STB

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    Thailand: Home of the 87-3-2 records.
     
  14. Boxing Prospect

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    Thailand, the home of active fighters, massive mismatches and boxing "as a job". For every record like Sirimongkol and Pongsaklek there is someone like who is 12-13 or some international (Filipino/Indonesian) journeyman willing to take an ass whooping on 3 days notice just to collect a pay day and get food.
     
  15. Badbot

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    :good Would do the same. Time and time again, journeymen score that unexpected win and in turn get lined up for their biggest payday.
    And i have seen a few journeymen who know how defend themselves pretty well.