Once a fighter wins a trinket, do you consider them world class?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by J Griz 757, Jun 13, 2010.


  1. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

    12,002
    113
    Mar 1, 2008
    Do you think a fighter deserves the title of "world class" once he or she wins a abc belt?

    For me it depends on the fighter, if I truely consider he or she world class, BUT I will refer to them as such, generally with "" due to the fact it's kinda by default.

    For the most part I consider a fighter truely world class once they have carried The Ring title at one point.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

    19,654
    52
    Jan 19, 2010
    By definition.

    You cannot be not considered a world class fighter if you have a world championhip belt.
     
  3. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

    12,002
    113
    Mar 1, 2008

    I understand that by default, once you have an abc belt youre a "World" champ.

    But I mean your own individual thought about it, do you think no matter who the fighter, if they manage to annex a abc title, should they automatically get the title of "World" champion? Or should they have to have The Ring belt, or should they just have to beat a certain amount of high ranked fighters?
     
  4. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

    15,033
    5
    May 26, 2008
    Definitely depends on the fighter. Would anyone consider David Diaz a world class fighter?.. and yet he managed to snag the WBC lightweight world title.

    All that just reveals how much of a joke titles are these days. No one should be given the title on 'champion' unless they're at the very least a world class fighter at the B level and above.
     
  5. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,225
    1
    Aug 13, 2009
    abc trinket = world class top ten10 contender
    the ring belt = world champ
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

    60,376
    241
    Sep 28, 2007
    Not always, But it defo opens the door for them to prove it.
     
  7. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

    12,002
    113
    Mar 1, 2008

    Good example.

    I completely respect Diaz as a fighter. But I never considered him truely world class, although he did have a "world" title. But we all know that once Diaz stepped in against a truely world class opponent there was no competition, only heart in Diaz's favor.

    If anything I generally stick to The Ring title, although it's become pretty much "the peoples" champ because it isn't a recognized sactioning body in record books, it is better than handing out 5 titles per sactioning body per weight class.

    Meaning for the most part, if you have The Ring title you must be world class and fighting or have fought, the best of a division.
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

    34,221
    5,875
    Apr 30, 2006
    :good
     
  9. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

    7,308
    1
    Jul 24, 2004
    Hell, "World class" can mean anything.

    If I was training in the same gym as a guy ranked even from #10-#20 in their weight division, I would probably think of them as "world class" fighters.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    39,848
    16
    Aug 29, 2006
    It depends on the run up to the title shot, and who the fighter wins their title from.