Once again, if Floyd fought any other way, we wouldn't see the best Floyd.

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Everyone's always talking about how he fights like a wuss, how he's boring. He's a chess player, a mover, a Michaelangelo in that ring.

    If Floyd fought out of his element on purpose and lost, we wouldn't be able to say that Berto beat the best Floyd. That's my point.

    I'd rather watch him fight at his best, boxing and sonning fools. :deal

    Don't blame Floyd guys like Canelo/Pacquiao/Berto/Guerrero/Cotto etc can't cut off the ring!!!
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We might not see the best Floyd, but we would in probably see much more competitive and entertaining fights, which is all I really care about. (subject to fighters not suffering any permanent damage just for my entertainment)
     
  3. TheVrominator

    TheVrominator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So he's good at curing insomnia, that's what you're saying? Here I was thinking he was in the fight game.
     
  4. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyds hands are fragile he doesnt have much of an option anyways
     
  5. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you don't care about the better fighter winning a fight as long as you're entertained? That's how professional prize fighters should think too?
     
  6. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    look he may have been caught breaking the rules

    but no one can deny his skillset

    we just don't know how many legitimate titles he won now until USADA clears the air
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're right because he'd have been KO'd
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The better fighter is the guy who wins the fight, I don't know what you're talking about.

    But the better fighter who bores me to death by running around the ring and slapping his way to victory isn't going to be getting my time or my money in the future. If you like that sort of style than have at it.

    Make no mistake, a fighter should try and do both things. If you listen to fighters after their fights they often say they want to put on an entertaining fight for their fans, so the two aren't mutually exclusive.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...because his chin's so bad... :blood
     
  10. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    steroid accusation aside

    floyd is the best of this generation...even if his first lost to castillo was correctly scored

    great fighters lose too
     
  11. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The reason why I said that is because Floyd is clearly better than Berto and they didn't need to fight to prove that.. You were saying that Floyd shouldn't fight they way that made him be the better fighter to make it more competitive.. He should risk everything for entertainment? If Floyd try to slug it out and breaks his hands and lose, would Berto have been the better fighter? Maybe right?

    That's like asking Nate Robinson to play Steph Curry one on one, but Curry can't just shoot jumpers because that would be boring.. He should do a bunch of fancy dunks.. Make it more competitive and entertaining...
     
  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Ain't nobody knocking out granite chinned Mayweather and that defense.
     
  13. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    yeah floyd's mental temperament and fighting style makes him who he is
    asking him to do something else is synonymous to making him a white man or taller

    the problem is that he always says he is going to beat the **** out of a guy and the public buys with hope he will deliver what he promised
     
  14. M.3

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    Would you advertise your own water as basic normal water that taste like all other water, or the best cool water from the freshest streams in the highest mountains.. Cool, delicious, and refreshing.. Bw51 water.. Get yours today... :lol:
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    If the fight is a forgone conclusion before it starts and we all know who's going to win, and we all know it's not going to be either competitive or entertaining, what is the point of the fight?

    In my opinion the answer is there is no point.

    So why anyone would watch this is beyond me.

    Just because someone is skilled doesn't mean he's entertaining and there are other attributes I admire in a fighter beyond only skill. Like when I fighter is hurt, maybe knocked down, but gets back up and guts out a win. Or the thrillia in Manilla where both fighters fought and left everything thing they had in the ring, their heart and souls, their blood and guts. that's the type of fighter I enjoy.

    Now someone like Mayweather who is super skilled as he is, and isn't that kind of fighter wants to get my respect, he should keep pushing the limit to find out where the limit is. He can still use the same skill set, just find opponents that have some sort of attribute to challenge those skills. If that means fighting at 160, so be it. But it doesn't mean dragging a career fighter at 135 up to 145 and using size, reach, and all the other advantages he has to get a win. What sort of challenge is that? At least SRL even though he often stacked the deck in his favor fought guys such as Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Benitez, who could give him a serious challenge and force him to use more than just skills. He said it himself in the first Duran fight, to win fights against this level of competition, you have to be able to fight when you feel like you're going to collapse, you have to push yourself beyond anything you've ever done. I can't think of one time, Floyd had to really dig deep to win a fight.

    Let's put it this way skill wise Floyd is miles above Vitali and the version of Lewis who fought Vitali. But if I'm at home wanting to watch an entertaining fight, I'm picking the Lewis - Vitali fight over 90% of the fights Floyd ever had because as good as he was, too many of his fights were glorified sparring sessions.