Once and for all, change the name. These guys do not descend from Joe Louis.

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Let’s face it. Heavyweights being called Cruiserweight is just plain wrong. And Superheavyweights being called “heavyweights” is just plain wrong too.

    The divisions above Lightheavyweight need relabelled


    Since it is called “light heavyweight”, There should be nothing between Light heavyweight and heavyweight. No new weight class. Nothing was ever needed there.

    the next weight up from LH should be called heavyweight. Not Cruiserweight.

    micheal Spinks and Roy Jones did not need it.

    The new weight should have been SHW. And pro boxing should never have begun calling traditional sized Heavyweights dog gone Cruiserweight !

    biggest disaster of all time was inventing “cruiserweight”.

    Therefore, bigger than “light” Heavyweight is “actual ” heavyweight.

    not cruiser.

    Amatuer boxing got this right. They realise above light heavyweight you can only ever have heavyweight.

    what the Olympics got right was adding a new division called Super heavyweight, separate from heavyweight, for the new sized athletes who (thanks to modern training) could now compete at top level as boxers.

    so Cruiserweight should be called Heavyweight.
     
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  2. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    No that’s ridiculous. Fighters like Bivol are too small to fight cruiser weights like Okolie.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Not one bit. If he’s good enough he’s big enough.

    okolie is a heavyweight.

    everything above LH is a heavyweight. If he won’t fight heavyweights called Cruiserweights then he can stay at lightheavyweight. He’s entitled to do that.
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This thread should not have been moved.
     
  5. Omega74

    Omega74 Member Full Member

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    I think the only weight class innovation that was a good decision, was the cruiserweight divison. Every other Super- weight division wasnt needed, and it made the talent pool of every traditional weight class weaker.
     
  6. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Yup. That tops it. Of all time.

    Completely ratonal post.
     
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  7. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t agree with your overall assessment of the divisions and the name is just the name, but they should bring back SHW for sure to prevent these size mismatches at HW
     
  8. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Saying that inventing cruiserweights is the biggest disaster of all-time my be a bit overly dramatic but I do see your point. If you don't want cruiserweight, at what weight would you start the super heavyweight division?
     
  9. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    And NO Bridgerweight either! Golly! Enough is enough!
     
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  10. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Selective
    I would think, in order to determine that, one has to decide where and how to place some of the Lineal Champions from the past, such as Jess Willard and Primo Carnera. That requires a lot of thought.
     
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  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good point.
     
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  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    Fixed that for you, chok.
     
  14. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    So Spence, and Crawford are heavyweights as they walk around at 180 plus.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Primo was HW champ, Willard was HW champ.
     
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