Once and FOR ALL: Mayweather VS Leonard who wins and why???

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  1. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Your right, these fights will unfortunately never happen. Hopefully Floyd goes on to fight the best fighters of his era to see if he really does belong with the Leonards, Durans, and Robinsons. But if there was anyone that was able to beat him, it was these guys. It's equally wrong to say Floyd would of beaten Leonard as he did Oscar or Corrales. Leonard is not Oscar or Corrales. :lol:
     
  2. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    of course but I was trying to state the fact that just because he is the smaller man, does not mean it will be his weakness !
     
  3. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:Only in your dreams:deal

    Duran would chase mayweather out of the ring at any weight, this is the man that outboxed/outthought & out fought SRL & how do you see Mayweather doing against Hagler seeing Duran took him 15 rounds & lost a tight decision:yep by your reckening Mayweather would win that also:lol:

    I'd love to see the HBO 24/7 with Duran & Mayweather:D just one look into these eyes & Floyd would be off on a 2 year vacation, he'd only ever fight Duran by video link:lol:

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    Leonard would take great spitefull pleasure in demolishing mayweather who has'nt the speed or power or offence at WW to last 8 rounds against such an accomplished technician as SRL , he'd be smashed to bits so tell us what Mayweather has too do to beat Leonard:bbb

    Duran terrifies & beats Mayweather to a pulp at the weigh-in.

    Leonard dominates every round, to fast/strong & skilled, TKO8.

    Hearns obliterates Mayweather whenever he feels like it.

    Hagler mangles him, TKO8.

    Benitez schools him & KO's him...& you think Floyd is fast!!!! this fate awaits him from all of the above as no shoulder role is going to ever save him as Leonard/Duran/Hearns/Benitez ai'nt RICKY HATTON:lol:

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    Mayweather has never fought anyone at WW who's a million light years near the above & what have been considered the top crew at WW these last 5 years he's blatently avoided:deal
     
  4. El Intocable

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    One of the worst posts in the history of ESB.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    that is not a fact, noob. if he is facing an equally skilled opponent who is naturally bigger... then yes, size is going to be his weakness.
     
  6. VIP

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    Leonard and Hearns would dominate Mayweather.
     
  7. VIP

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    Heck....he would have huge trouble against a prime Oscar, Mosley.
     
  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    $ would have fought them in lower weight divisions, where he was much moar offense based, and whoop they AZZes worse than what happened to them in reality.
     
  9. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Just like he whooped Castillo's. :lol:
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Why did Mosley not want it for over a decade? He only decided to fight Floyd when that was the only big money option left for him. He knew Floyd's style was all wrong for him but doing it in 2010 meant a fat AZZ paycheck to go with the L.
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Maybe because Floyd wouldn't bring as much $$$ as a fight with Oscar would. Floyd wasn't as big as Oscar was at the time. Sure, I also agree Mosley has always had trouble with fighters who were good boxers with jabs like Forrest and Winky did, but they were both naturally bigger, taller fighters. Cotto was able to outbox Mosley using angles and jabs and Cotto is about Floyds size, but I wouldn't give Cotto as much credit as I would to Winky and Forrest. Mosley fought much more aggressive for 12 rounds when he was in his prime. All these fighters, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, etc they are all proven fighters, fought the best at their best. That is the big question mark with Floyd. He had fought the best, but not at their best. I'm not questioning that he can't beat Pacman because he most likely will, but he hasn't. All these fighters are great and anyone would win it would depend on what gameplan they bring and if they are able to follow it. Floyd has not fought a fighter close to his level and Pacquiao and Sergio Martinez seem to be close to it. And these guys are both southpaws and very fast ones also so they seem to be the worst style for Floyd because he's had the most with lefties. Leonard fought Duran, lost to him because Duran had a better plan than him, than Leonard changed his plan, and wala. Fighting the best p4p fighters in the world that are much older than you or smaller than you are not going to put you head and shoulders with the likes of Leonard, Hearns, Duran, etc. It wouldn't be right.
     
  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    What does that have to do with a younger Floyd whooping prime Oscar and Mosley?

    Younger Mosley fought moar aggressively, but younger Floyd used much moar movement like a typical outside fighter. Gameplans matter like you said, and Floyd's ring IQ is much better than Oscar and Mosley's smarts.

    Which boxer doesn't think it's trickier to fight southpaws? Even southpaws have a harder time fighting other lefties. Floyd is moar than covered against southpaws as he's dominated every single one he has fought. The right hand and left hook are the main punches to use on them. Floyd's right hand is an ATG right, and the left hook is excellent.

    I actually think Floyd has an easier time with Martinez than he would manny. Martinez **** southpaw stance, poor balance, and hands down style is AZZking to get roasted by Floyd's perfectly timed right hands.

    I never thought Floyd could whoop Leonard and Hearns. I don't even like these kind of threads that match up Floyd with Leonard or Hearns, or pacquiao vs Hearns. Floyd is a small guy who started at 130, and manny is a midget. Leonard and Hearns started off as tall welterweights.

    Putting Floyd or manny in with Roberto is a fairer game.
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    A younger Floyd did not have the tools basically to beat a prime Oscar or Mosley. He was slick as hell, but you mean to tell me Floyd who struggled with Castillo, a very good lightweight, but not near Oscar's and Mosley's level, is going to beat Oscar and Mosley in their prime? Have you already forgot how good these guys were in their prime? Granted, I'd probably pick Floyd to beat a prime Mosley 7 out of 10 times, but can you imagine a fresher, stronger, faster, more consistent Mosley repeating what he did with a Floyd in the 2nd round for several rounds? Sure, not many are as skilled as Floyd, but I'd like Mosley's chances after seeing that. As for Oscar, now he's a more consistent jabber than Mosley ever was and used his jab much better. I don't think he was as skilled as Floyd either or had the same stamina, but he was easily as fast as Floyd and I don't think Floyd would win by fighting on the outside as much, he'd need to get past Oscar's jab. I think you might be overrating Floyd abit too much and underrating Oscar and Shane at their best, late 90's-early 2000's.
     
  14. Leon

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    You like Mosley's chances, but you wouldn't even pick a prime one if he was fighting prime Floyd. He only gets it 3 out of 10 times in your fantasy fights.

    Young Floyd loved to fight on the inside.
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Well, I'll be honest, I think I was being alittle too modest with Floyd, maybe 50-50 chance of Mosley beating Floyd at 135 and 147 PRIME Mosley. Don't forget Mosley loved going to the body as much as Floyd did. He didn't have the power he had at 130, but c'mon, Corrales was ko'd by Castillo and dropped by Casamayor also, so I think Floyd's win over Chico is abit overrated. I still think his best win was over a prime Castillo and Hatton with a past his prime Mosley as his third. The Duran that beat Leonard is a hellish version of Castillo, Floyd loses that one for sure. Duran that lost to Lang loses to Floyd also. Duran the brawler beats any version of Floyd.