One loss is not the end of a prospect's career. But according to the boxing fan it is

people love winners. what are you gonna do?

 

great post my friend,my sentiments exactly

 

i agree though that people turn their backs on fighters too quickly. every great fighter loses, and some have even lost early in their career.
hopkins drew in his first fight.
henry armstrong lost 3 of his first 4.
there are plenty more examples, but y'all get the point.

 

cracking post

 

I agree , and believe that a loss can do a fighter good in the longer term , a good example would be David Haye.

 

But if a fighter loses b/c he is not that good and was previously overhyped.. You dont have a point to me. Sorry. If it was a fluke type loss, yeah. But if a mediocre fighter was better then you. Then you yourself are not what the hype train thinks you are.

 

great post bigbone, and i agree. I think Andy Lee just failed his first attempt to become a contender. He lost his first pro fight, and there is already a rematch planned. I think Ande Lee is a very talented fighter, more so than Vera, and all he needs to do is make the necessary adjustments and comeback. Vera remained the contender (with a better name on his resume) and, Andy Lee remained prospect for now. I defenitly dont think his career is over, far from it, i think the best is still to come.

 

boxing is about winning,but a loss is no big deal,only a handful of top tier fighters have retired undefeated.

 

That's because most of the guys on ESB are jackasses who act like they are 12yrs old.

This is the very reason guys are matched so carefully, even though honestly it'd be better if they'd face stiff comp early, take a few losses and learn from it, but jackass fans pull this **** EVERYTIME a prospect loses.

 

I think a lot of it is to do with the nature and attitude of fighters before fights.
ONLY in boxing do you hear such over confident bravado from opponents before a fight.
Do you ever hear a boxer saying 'i'll just try my best and see what happens' like many sportsmen from different sports would say.

The backlash heaped upon losing boxers is inversely proportional to the amount of arrogance they [or their fans] have before the fight.

 

Lee didn't even remotely impress me. I remember that as early as the second round I was think 'hype-job'. I understand the point of this thread is to argue that a single loss doesn't automatically make a fighter a hype-job. But I think that arguement applies when the fighter fights somewhere in line with expectations: for example, Andreas Kotelnik fighting today, didn't lose any stock in my book versus Junior Witter, because he met expectations. However, before last night, people were hyping Lee as the clear opponent for Pavlik within the next year...WOW incorrect big time! His power was overstated, his defense is awful, he doesn't know how to hold, modest speed at best, and it appears his stamina is nothing special either. To me, that constitutes a hype-job.

 

This is the one place where Boxing fans and MMA fans differ.....MMA gys usually have like 10 loses on their record. If a boxer loses once he's pretty much finished (In the public's eye) as Roy Jones Jr. said a while back

 

its not the end of his career but do you not agree that its a major setback?

 

If these **** suckers would just enter into a boxing GYM and see FIRST HAND what it takes to compete on a professional level they'd stop running their ***** mouths the first second a boxer losses their first professional fight. And I agree with you completely I have a HUGE ****ING problem with these assholes calling boxers "overrated, hype jobs" etc etc....Get your ***** asses in a ring and lets see whats over rated or not! :fire