One (major) thing that Pacquiao undoubtedly has over Mayweather in an ATG discussion

Zahir Rahim

 

Do you really believe what you are talking about?

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This is why they are having a fourth fight!

 

Morales schooled him, then coming off a loss and was weight drained. Third fight was pointless and wasn't needed.

Barrea got beat up and quit, another pointless rematch.

Marquez was in a lower weight class and beat pacquiao.


Floyd can beat anyone that pacquiao fought, he was in a different weight class at that time. He proved it against marquez.

 

I just don't understand this. Pacquiao's legacy will consist of trilogies. What super great fighter has to fight the same man over and over again? Marquez fought Floyd and after that 1 fight, there was no doubt what happened. Barrera was washed up. Morales was washed up and the 3rd fight was taken against Marquez because they thought the age and the weight would slow have taken enough of a toll on him for Pacquiao to just easily walk through. He got surprised and he got his chin checked a few times last November. If Pac's legacy is so much better than Floyd's, then why does he need to fight this man yet again??? Juan Manuel Marquez was the first fighter to have won his previous contest by way of KO that Pac fought in many years. I'm not talking about the Top Rank promoted dive taken by the cab driver Likar Ramos. I'm talking about the legit KO of Michael Katsidis. Other than that one fight, Manny was fighting guys who were on the receiving ends of KOs and ass whoopings. Legacy my ass. You guys are DELUSIONAL and that's just your opinion. The FACTS say otherwise.

 

They are having a fourth fight because it will make more money than a Bradley rematch. It's not hard to understand.

Why do you think Pac fought Morales again, instead of fighting Raheem, the guy who beat him, instead?

 

Muhammad Ali, for one.

 

See I dont know if you remember what happened. Pac fought Morales again because it was the fight of the year and Pac had losed. The fight with Raheem was just to build the Morales rematch but he lost. So they had the rematch anyway. Right after that fight, Raheem defended his title won from the Morales fight against a bum lost his first defense of his title.

The reason Morales and Pac fought for a third time is because it was a rubbermatch. They both had wins against each other.


Now against Marquez, Marquez has never officially got a win against him. So why fight a third fight? The reason being is that everyone knows that MARQUEZ was truly cheated.


Pac needs to stop being a little ***** and fight Mayweather. Who the ****s gives a care about contracts and fight dates. If he really wanted to fight Mayweather the fight would of been happened. If he fights Mayweather, he would earn more money that the Marquez, Bradley and Clottely fight together.



We have to remember that Floyd has NEVER been beat. He has been a champion since Pac was getting knocked out but no names. Floyd was mention in the same breath with Roy Jones, Lenox Lewis, ODH, BHOP, Mosley, Tito and etc. as P4P in the sport. WHERE WAS PAC THEN? He was either getting Knocked out, losing fights, or coming real close to losing fights!

 

And Ray Robinson.

 

:yep

 

Exactly the point I was trying to make.

And even though I have a feeling that Floyd would beat Morales and Barrera as easily as he beat Marquez, I still give Pacquiao credit for those wins. Just not as much as everyone else seems to.

"Think about it, when Flloyd fought Corrales, it was two undefeated fighters matching up in their prime. Corrales was at the time 33-0 with 31KO's. If you remember that time, he was one of the most feared boxer in the lower weight classes."

People forget this. Anyone who says they always knew Floyd would beat Corrales is a flat out liar.

 

I don't think many people take anything away from the Corrales win, do they? 'cause they really shouldn't.

 

So does that mean Pacquiao fans never discredit any of Floyd's wins?

 

some say he was weight drained and distracted by jail atsch

 

Name the better 130, 135, 140, 147, and 154 lbs fighters when Mayweather fought them.

And please don't TR fighters up, Bob Arum had no interest in ever helping Mayweather at the expense of his fighters.

 

Exactly, in boxing people really forget or act like that fighter is nothing after they lose a fight. Think about Corrales and FLoyd resumes if Corrales would of beat Floyd once during that time in a rubber match. People would instantly say Floyd resume is way better than it is now.