One man that would beat Bivol and beterbeiv in the same night

Bivol TKO9
Beterbiev KO2

Calzaghe is hideously overrated. He's like an Anthony Joshua or Ricky Hatton type that never got found out for being B+

 

Can never count Calzaghe out - he has the rarest of qualities even among the great in being able to adapt well in the middle of a fight, on top of his other qualities…

But you’re putting him up against great 175 lbers, I couldn’t make him the favorite against either one.

 

Knocked down in every fight he fought at LHW, both times to 40 year old men.

 

I agree but Calzaghe was almost 40 himself.

 

I always go back to watch RJJ at his prime and he appears better and better everytime I watch. I think he is the GOAT who could do that here. Not Calzaghe.

 

There is a reason Calzaghe did not pursue that fight until Jones was completely finished... He spent the vast bulk of his career fighting non entities in Wales instead of the leading lights of his own generation (technically actually the generation before) until they'd been knocked off their perches.

 

Calzaghe was a brilliant SMW in his pomp but he wasnt a LHW .. Bivol reminds me of him somewhat but is a little more basic.. albeit exceptional with it.. id have to favour the more established LHWs .. when JC fought at light heavyweight he was pretty much shot at the time .. his legs were going & his hands were gone

 

Calzaghe in his 46 fight career only ever fought outside Britain 4 times and one of those fights was over a fighter he had previously beaten in Wales. Calzaghes biggest win was over Kessler and even then he refused the verbally agreed rematch back in Denmark. Robin Reid deserved at least a draw when they fought and then we get to Jones and Hopkins,who both dropped him in the first round ! Jones at this point was completely shot and whilst Hopkins went on to win further belts he only got the decision over Hopkins imo because of the “white boy “ comment. Why didn’t Calzaghe move up to fight one of the Champions instead of Jones and Hopkins who were both beltless at the time ? Simply put he needed there names on his resume. I just don’t see any argument that Calzaghe could have beaten two career long Light heavyweight fighters like Bivol or Beterbiev . Had the fights with Jones and Hopkins been made earlier in there careers then that would have been different,there are also other fighters missing from his resume that could have added to his standing .

 

Calzaghe is too small. Bivol edges it in a close but clear win. Beterbiev mauls him. Not a good idea for a smaller 168 pounder to get in the ring with AB.

 

I'm afraid this is nonsense. Calzaghe, with no signature win, defending routinely against little heard of fighters, and holding the extremely lowly (at the time) ranked WBO belt, was simply not on the radar of the elite marquee fighters in the 90s and early 2000s. That idea only started to gain traction after his win over Lacey in 2006 - two years after Jones was finished as a top level fighter. Remember that Calzaghe as the longtime reigning champion was an underdog going into that fight, giving you an indication of how he was viewed at that time, especially vs the other p4p stars.
Joe was also operating at a lower weight class when their careers were crossing in a meaningful way, with nothing to offer, while Jones (a huge star) was established defending at LHW - and had his eye on a heavyweight belt.
History is starting to try to position things differently, but the reality is that Joe padded his record in Wales against names like Jiminez, Veit, Shobot and Pudwill seemingly unwilling to test himself against the likes of Hopkins and Jones until they had both slipped - Jones significantly.
Fair or not, it was the era when fighters had to travel to the States for big fights and Calzaghe, for the bulk of his career, knew what was necessary to bag a big fight but did not do it. Hatton did - and at least tried to be great against ATG s when they were in their prime. Joe was simply, at that time, not really in the same conversation or viewed at the same level, weight classes aside. I will credit Joe for having some good wins late in his career. But he should have been doing that years earlier. I lived through that era. If you would have told me, in 2001, that Joe Calzaghe would have a win over RJJ before they both retired I would have thought you were insane. I'm not trying to do Joe down... I think in the long run he eventually proved himself to be a good fighter. But he should have been having and chasing those big fights when they meant much, much more. Context here is everything. He would have quite rightly been a significant underdog had he fought Jones prior to 2003

 

Is someone paying you to troll and be a moron? Where do you pull garbage like this?

Anyway, Bivol eeks out a close decision in a competitive fight against Calzaghe, Beterbiev smokes him.

On the same night? Even Calzage's 10 year old son would laugh at a stupid claim like this.