One probable reason for Manny Pacquiao's weak performance...

that's the same thing nacho said.. just a longer version and more detailed one.

 

i agree

watch pac vs diaz

pac needs to take more risks nowadays

 

That wasn't no weak performance, that was world class fighting. People need to realize that Marquez is just a great fighter that will always give PAC problem. PAC and Marquez will always have close fight with the decision going toward PAC way.

Pac is truly an ATG... He's the only fighter in history to be exposed for winning a lopsided 12rds decs against a guy way bigger than him, plus he's the only fighter to be called overrated for winning a decision against an ATG.

 

LMAO. The difference between Manny fighting those other guys compared to JMM is that Marquez is not a flat footed, come forward fighter. He is a technical boxer. He has great timing as well. Manny just got beat by a pure boxer and Manny can't do **** about it. They can fight a hundred times and Marquez will put it on him every time. lmao.

 

Yup.

He had way too much respect for JMM's punches, and placed too much emphasis on getting out of the way of shots and throwing counters of his own <---- something which is not his speciality.

 

Why not say Marquez is just a greater boxer than the other guys pac fought above 135, he is smarter and his style is better suited to fight pac, marquez copies pacs rhythm and figures his combo's out and responds to it, usually pacs athletic gifts helped him to drop marquez as did marquez intentions to trade, but now he has slowed down a bit and marquez fought a carefull smart fight, therefore winning.
I think if they fight again it will be similair if the same marquez shows up.

 

He never went to the body either. 17 body shots the entire fight? As great as he is he has so many technical flaws that will show against a pure boxer like JMM. Freddie kept telling him to get his lead foot to the outside and Manny kept it center all night bc his foot work is not there. I think if he would have relaxed a bit, and went to the body with straight lefts then it might have changed the outcome. Also he has no inside game and if he did it would have won him that fight in my opinion.

 

Marquez was just sitting back and looking to counter all night as usual, I thought he would look slow like he did against Mayweather and that would leave openings for Pacquiao to counter him.

He was faster, stronger, bigger than in the Mayweather fight though.

Pacquiao should have fought like a madman. He almost knocked him out in the first 2 fights but couldn't even get a KD this time because of his timid gameplan.

 

Wrong gameplan for PAC and his team, they thought that they could outbox JMM

 

It is funny seeing people say the old version of Pac would have done better. Manny Pacquiao is the same old Manny Pacquiao and anyone willing to be real knows it. People got spoiled watching him in the ring with flat footed, come forward fighters that is tailor made for his style. He made the same mistakes and has the same way of fighting that he always had and the only difference is that those flat footed ass guys couldn't make him pay for those mistakes.

A pure boxer like Marquez will always make him pay. Manny can't cut off the ring and it showed last Saturday. He has average foot work and it showed. He has great foot speed that allowed him to create angles against flat footed fighters, but Marquez has good foot work to take away the angles.

So get off of this old Manny would have done better. The old Manny knocked Marquez down 3 times in the first round and got out boxed the other 11 rounds. There was never a new Manny.

 

Pacquiao won the first fight, how can you say Marquez won 11 rounds in that fight, man you're an idiot. Pacquiao landed almost 45% of his power punches and knocked him down 3 times.

Barrera wasn't flat footed and Pacquiao destroyed him. Barrera was robbed against Marquez.

Marquez wouldn't beat those "flat footed" Cotto and Margarito.

He had the most success in the 1st fight when he fought like a madman. Stop hating on Pacquiao.

 

No the reason is he has been matched really well in the last couple of years and JMM has his number. He still is a helluva fighter though.

 

The first fight should have never came down to a draw. It doesn't matter if one judge scored the round 10-7 instead of 10-6. Manny got out boxed the remainder of the fight. Not saying he won all 11 rounds either but over all he out boxed Manny.

 

of course it matters! people just seem to forget that pac had a victory taken away from him, he drew a fight beause of an idiotic judge... there would have been no need for a 3rd fight had them cards been scored correctly

so basically, so far, after 3 fights with JMM, hes 2-1 ahead..... let them fight again & settle it once & for all

but saying its irrelevant that a judge scored it wrong is a bit hypocritical consdiering its the scoring of the rounds that in the major question here

everyones just hating on pac cause its fashionable to do it now.... **** that, hes offered a rematch, so wheres everyones problem?? Its not as if hes ripped him off himselfm, then said hes not prepared to go again... the guys 2-0-1 with JMM and he should techinically be 2-1 if it was better judging on 2 fights....