One Question About Arthur Abraham???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by booradley, Jun 23, 2008.


  1. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt that Gary Lockett scrapes into the top 5 british middleweights and it took Pavlik 3 rounds to get rid of him.
    To say AA would only last 3 with Pavlik is stupid. I think it would be a very close fight with both fighters getting hurt. I would give the edge to AA because Pavliks defence is poor.
     
  2. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that AA would struggle badly against fighters with good stamnia/workrate and a solid jab. And in that regard Pavlik has a styleadvantage in this fight.

    If Pavlik stays behind his jab and straight punches the most logical outcome would be a UD for Pavlik.

    I cannot see AA outboxing Pavlik, and his workrate is simply to low to win on points. His couterpuncing skill is not that great eighter.

    He have to go for the KO, and he is not known as guy who stalks his opponents to get the KO. In that regard i could see this as a pretty easy UD for Pavlik if he plays it safe and rely on his jab to do the scoring.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    This really goes right back to my original question. If AA is such a great counter puncher why is it that a number of mediocre fighters have made the distance, or come close, against him?

    Sometimes you act like Pavlik just comes forward with his freaking eyes closed or something. He inches forward carefully behind a great jab, and really good 1-2, sometimes an occasional lead right. (I think he should use that lead right to the body more often. It's one of the best in the biz.)
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Did you watch the fight? We're not talking a split decision here, Abraham destroyed him.
     
  5. tpuz

    tpuz Active Member Full Member

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    You can't even spell defense. Going by your Vcash, I wouldn't put too much stock into your fight predictions.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Knowing joke or complete self-ownage. You decide.
     
  7. tpuz

    tpuz Active Member Full Member

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    Actually neither, just looked it up and US spells it with an S, while UK and Canada spell it with a C, my bad.
     
  8. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    AA performs up to his level of competition - he performed lack-luster when he had faced journeyman - though, performed well when he stepped it up...

    ...AA is the epitome of efficiency in todays world of boxing...
     
  9. franknstein

    franknstein Member Full Member

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    What he said!
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Maybe Ayala wasnt throwing enough for Abraham to counter effectively, you pavlik fans ever think of that?
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your reasoning is a little off when you say that the fight could have gone either way, and even more off when you predicted an early KO for Edison.

    If Edison was ever going to KO Arthur, it would have been in the first fight, when the man's jaw was broken for over 2/3 of the fight.

    If you can't KO a man in that state, and indeed come close to being stopped yourself, how the hell are you going to KO him in the rematch ?

    And as far as dealing with Pavlik's power, Miranda has equal, if not more power. I have seen no evidence so far of Kelly's overwhelming power.

    He has good power, but IMO, both Edison and Arthur hit harder.

    Kelly has constant , continuous power that eventually wears his opponents down. Arthur has more pop in any single shot.

    Regarding chins, (and I admit to watching only five or six fights of each fighter), Taylor showed that Kelly could be stunned. Taylor just ****ed up the finishing job.

    Arthur has taken bigger shots and survived.

    If they meet (in the US), if it goes the distance, Kelly will likely get the decision, based on workrate.

    If the result is a KO, it's Kelly who will be ten toes up.
     
  12. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    The punch that did Miranda was a nice sharp straight right. Looping hooks had been for the kill.
     
  13. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    A lot of Pavlik fans still don't give AA much credit but he steps it up when he needs to as was evident against a dangerous foe in Miranda.
    I think a fight with Pavlik will be an epic battle.IMO Pavlik will probably fight AA in the same manner as Taylor II - you can be sure Pavlik will have respect for Abrahams power and i expect a cautious gameplan from Pavlik.

    Pavlik close UD
     
  14. kungfu

    kungfu Member Full Member

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    Soz but that is ridiculous :huh :patsch :-(
     
  15. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    wow , this forum turned into a bunch of ****in fan boys.