One thing I hate

I don't like it either, but they are figuring to get the top guy experience and slowly get him use to going rounds and used to the difference in the professional rank. Some of the guys they match him with are not so great, and the guy usually is an opponent to other prospects.

 

Well you are not wrong. But more often than not, these 7-16 guys actually come to fight.
And the highlight reel KO's are needed to build a fan base. It's rare for amateurs to become instant stars.
And in order to step up in competition, there has to be money involved.

It's an imperfect system but one the promoters and fighters have to deal with. It's hard to get your prospect a good fight if you can't afford it.
And when you can afford it, do you want to take the risk?
Matchmaking is often a risky gamble.

 

That is real post. I agree. But as people we all have choices. Those who jump in the ring knowing their chances of winning are slim - have a choice. They do not have to get there. That isn't justifying it. We are all responsible for our actions and behaviour. But I see where you are coming from.

 

Good point about creating the highlight reel for future marketability. That said, I have already decided against riding the Shakur Stevenson bandwagon, given his lack of highlight reel stoppages.

 

I don't care for these fight. But its one of the things that separates boxing from MMA. Those fights with veterans can cost a fighter's record. Look at Loma, he lost to Siri (though Siri was a hugh cheater in that fight). And look at all the heat he gets for that defeat. Now imagine, a regular prospect in with a seasoned vet looking to win.

Edit: I just realized that Siri was the defending champion and not just a vet. However my point still stands in my mind. Vets are too dangerous for managers who want ROI with fighter they sign.

 

Disagree

The sport is built off the backs of club fighters and journeyman

 

If that's the only thing in boxing that you hate, then I'm jealous. You're partially right, but apart from what you described, those fights are also made to build up a fighter's confidence - because you can afford to work on much more aspects against this type of opposition.

Besides, boxing is business, and no one likes those high-risk low-reward fights against other prospects. Now is the era when a loss means too much, and you would put yourself at risk of losing your market-value. It is what it is.

 

A lot of these journey men literally earn their living getting beat up by noobs, Promoters rely on a lot of these guys who are willing to take fights on 24 hours notice etc and plenty of them are perfectly happy making a living as a journey man, The ones who can give fighters rounds are very usefull.

 

i dont like it, but its the situation that creates these episodes, that i dont like. these guys can get hurt, sure, but everebodys physiology is slightly different. that one shot that puts a guy in a coma, might not do any permanent damage to 100 others, so it falls on the fighter to assess personal risk and reward. thats why im also glad that this bum at least has the option in life to fight a guy his size for what amounts to a new car or house.

 

its hard for alot of these guys to get fights. starting out as a pro is not easy. u gotta take what u can get . for both guys

 

Vargas fan is right. The club fighter/journeyman/gatekeeper is how the world class/elite/pound for pounders get built up.

Lots of times those fights are not competitive but they still need to take place. Consume them at your discretion.

 

I only somewhat agree.

Gross mismatches are indeed commonplace in boxing and it’s incredibly tedious. We don’t see the Warriors going up against a high school girl’s team, so I don’t know why we see the equivalent in boxing constantly.

When you’re just getting started, sure, go ahead and fight someone terrible. Even if you’re a gold medal olympic athlete, you still have to get used to the pro scene.

But boxers will just regress seemingly randomly. Are you really benefiting from fighting some no hoper who lives in his car? What the ****.

So I agree this is a bad aspect of boxing.

But for the morality aspect? I’m not sure I agree. I don’t know if they’re really getting more damage than two very skilled and equally matched guys going at it.

The no-hoper takes one hard hit, goes down, and gets a nice paycheck.

The eite, competitive fights? They’re taking hits to the head all night. That’s ain’t good.

There are exceptions like David Allen. Who perhaps even inspired this thread. Still, he’s a consenting adult. Maybe he’d rather some brain damage, fame, and money over a couple soul crushing decades canning cat food.

 

It's unfortunate that there are boxers whose unofficial role is to help prospects shine. We should all just pray that all are allowed to win if they can and not just take a dive.