One thing I hate

slender4 · Jun 24, 2018

Because the networks and the sanctioning bodies like to promote undefeated fighters.

OvidsExile · Jun 24, 2018

You ain't wrong.

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OvidsExile · Jun 24, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

I'm working on my own thread entitled "One of the 3,978 Things I Hate."

And no, you're not wrong, I partially agree with you, guys with records like that should be used for guys like Canelo who started his pro career at 15, as opposed to decorated amateurs.
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Who's your new floozy? She's hot. ( I got a weakness for redheads.)

CST80 · Jun 25, 2018

OvidsExile said: ↑

Who's your new floozy? She's hot. ( I got a weakness for redheads.)
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I'm ashamed of you, that's only one of the most iconic scenes in the history of on screen erotica, its Sylvia Kristel in Emmanuelle.

titanic · Jun 25, 2018

NHB7 said: ↑

I love boxing. I understand why throughout the history of the sport it has been a controversial sport. Obviously it’s violent, obviously it’s not good for the health of a human to be repeatedly battered to the body and head etc. Heck, even as a long time fan I find myself sometimes uncomfortable with it, but I mostly justify it to myself as two adults knowing what they’re getting into. But there is one aspect of the sport I hate.

Every so OFTEN, when they are trying to build up a new fighter (eg. an Olympic medalist in his first 5 pro fights) or (amateur who went 123-1 in his amateur career) they put them in there NOT with other prospects, but with men they know the upstart is going to gloriously beat to hell and KO.

Often the opponent will have a terrible losing record like 7-16-2. They always justify it as an opportunity for the actual prospect to get some pro experience against a veteran. But that is secondary. The reality is that the purpose is to build a highlight reel KO for the prospect to be able to sell him later. It feels exploitative. It’s often against guys that just need a way to make extra money for their families so they feel forced to accept these paid beatdowns.

I hate these fights. Feel free to tell me why I’m wrong.
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One good Example is the Naoya Inoue (Sardine can killer)

DoubleJab666 · Jun 25, 2018

NHB7 said: ↑

I love boxing. I understand why throughout the history of the sport it has been a controversial sport. Obviously it’s violent, obviously it’s not good for the health of a human to be repeatedly battered to the body and head etc. Heck, even as a long time fan I find myself sometimes uncomfortable with it, but I mostly justify it to myself as two adults knowing what they’re getting into. But there is one aspect of the sport I hate.

Every so OFTEN, when they are trying to build up a new fighter (eg. an Olympic medalist in his first 5 pro fights) or (amateur who went 123-1 in his amateur career) they put them in there NOT with other prospects, but with men they know the upstart is going to gloriously beat to hell and KO.

Often the opponent will have a terrible losing record like 7-16-2. They always justify it as an opportunity for the actual prospect to get some pro experience against a veteran. But that is secondary. The reality is that the purpose is to build a highlight reel KO for the prospect to be able to sell him later. It feels exploitative. It’s often against guys that just need a way to make extra money for their families so they feel forced to accept these paid beatdowns.

I hate these fights. Feel free to tell me why I’m wrong.
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Not wrong but on the flipside, if an up-and-coming fighter has a low KO percentage - or God forbid an early LOSS on his record - he tends to get written off by fans pretty quick....

Cafe · Jun 25, 2018

Tbh they probably are happy to do take the beating for the money.

PIPO23 · Jun 25, 2018

Sometimes the underdog pulls the upset.I know what you mean but i have seen sometimes the guy with the worst record beats the odds and cracks the glass jaw of the highly decorated former olympian whatever its a great feeling.

pipe wrenched · Jun 25, 2018

Don't know if been said per se.....

But $ is ALWAYS a factor, and the old journey man likely fights for peanuts, leaving a little more to fluff the blue chips pay...even deep under card....

But the **** do I know....lol

OvidsExile · Jun 25, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

I'm ashamed of you, that's only one of the most iconic scenes in the history of in screen erotica, its Sylvia Kristel in Emmanuelle.
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Unfortunately, my screen erotica period was rather limited, and Krista Allen is the only Emmanuelle that I'm somewhat familiar with.

Jackstraw · Jun 25, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

I'm ashamed of you, that's only one of the most iconic scenes in the history of in screen erotica, its Sylvia Kristel in Emmanuelle.
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Emmanuelle!? Man, I haven’t seen that in years...the original one, the one with the cigarette scene, right? That broad, along with Bo Derek, helped usher me into manhood

Ph33rknot · Jun 25, 2018

you're not wrong but at the same time we've seen guys who did great in the Olympics get demolished in the pro's two different sports

CST80 · Jun 25, 2018

OvidsExile said: ↑

Unfortunately, my screen erotica period was rather limited, and Krista Allen is the only Emmanuelle that I'm somewhat familiar with.
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I was quite fond of Krista too, but she's ranked fourth behind Sylvia, 2nd Nathalie Uher, 3rd Monique Gabrielle, also you should check out Laura Gemser, she's quite stunning as well, she was the star of Joe D'Amato's Black Emmanuelle films, which would be insanely un-PC now days, since she's actually an Indonesian.

CST80 · Jun 25, 2018

Jackstraw said: ↑

Emmanuelle!? Man, I haven’t seen that in years...the original one, the one with the cigarette scene, right? That broad, along with Bo Derek, helped usher me into manhood
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Yep, that one, cigarette in the butt, that was the most hardcore thing any of us could possibly see on Skinemax back in the day, that truly took me aback the first time I saw it. I watched Tarzan The Ape Man so many times I lost count, and it wasn't because it was a good movie either.

Angler Andrew · Jun 25, 2018

NHB7 said: ↑

I love boxing. I understand why throughout the history of the sport it has been a controversial sport. Obviously it’s violent, obviously it’s not good for the health of a human to be repeatedly battered to the body and head etc. Heck, even as a long time fan I find myself sometimes uncomfortable with it, but I mostly justify it to myself as two adults knowing what they’re getting into. But there is one aspect of the sport I hate.

Every so OFTEN, when they are trying to build up a new fighter (eg. an Olympic medalist in his first 5 pro fights) or (amateur who went 123-1 in his amateur career) they put them in there NOT with other prospects, but with men they know the upstart is going to gloriously beat to hell and KO.

Often the opponent will have a terrible losing record like 7-16-2. They always justify it as an opportunity for the actual prospect to get some pro experience against a veteran. But that is secondary. The reality is that the purpose is to build a highlight reel KO for the prospect to be able to sell him later. It feels exploitative. It’s often against guys that just need a way to make extra money for their families so they feel forced to accept these paid beatdowns.

I hate these fights. Feel free to tell me why I’m wrong.
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You’re quite but that was the traditional way of building a fighter,going the long game route,this is why you’ve got respect what Lomachenko has done though coming in as pro and starting at the top,hate it when idiots bring up the Salido loss when he had the balls to fight him second fight.
Did you see the Taylor fight with Postal other night?hes another doing the short game,Victor Postal in his 13th fight I thought was too much though and was pushing it.
At the end of the day you gotta respect the sport cause I’m telling you if you’re not on it you can lose to anyone.

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