One thing (or two things) Mayweather has never done...

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since saying that Floyd never fought a devastating puncher and avoided Winky and MAB the OP has countered exactly 0 arguments against those claims...
     
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  2. Thread Stealer

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    It was talked about after the Gatti fight, but just about everyone knew it would never happen. Anyone who believed the talk needed a reality check.
     
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  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? I have no recollection of that. Floyd fought Gatti at 140 a month after Winky had fought Tito at 160.
     
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  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    This man knows what he's talkin about.
     
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  5. MaxDamage

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    He is not a devastating puncher either, what's your point?
     
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  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    what is this dumbass thread about? He hasn't faced a big puncher or a guy with good defense, so you bring up Margartio, Williams, Khan?

    stfu TBE 48-0

    UD12 ***** get over it
     
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  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My point is that he has a reach close to Mayweather's, if not rangier, and a speed of hand close to Mayweather's, if not faster, and doesn't walk in slow-footed with mostly hooks.

    Neither has Mayweather fought a defensive or evasive operator or massive banger.
     
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  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He only fights the walk-forward types, removed from their best weight or prime time to boot.
     
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  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what do you have to say about Corrales clearly being a devastating puncher? Or about a Floyd/MAB fight not happening because MAB didn't leave 126 till 2004 while Floyd never fought below 135 after 2002? Or about Floyd/Winky not being a remotely viable option because Floyd was at 130/135 while winky was at 154 and Floyd being at 140 while Winky was at 160? Or about Floyd famously wanting a Naz fight?
     
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  10. AmericanEra

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    Corrales/Mosley/Maidana/Pacquiao/Marquez/Castillo are all devastating punchers.
     
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  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's surely not a coincidence that he managed to evade all of the dozens of fighters within one single weight category of himself who would've given a healthy two-handed PBF or Money Man more trouble than any fighter ever has (including Zab's speed and Oscar's jab). Naz, Barrera (126 in '98-'01, FMJ 130), Spadafora, Casamayor, Freitas, Winky (heavily hyped in '05, could still make 154 when FMJ was a big 147), Williams, Margarito, Hatton in '05, Cotto in '05, Pac in '08, Mosley at 135 (before he lost his speed), Oscar rematch, Khan, Brook, Witter, etc. Come on.
     
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  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I even forgot to list Kostya Tszyu of all people.
     
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  13. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not truly. Nothing like Hamed, Tszyu or GGG, or Corrales aside even Witter or Brook (natural 140-147lbers with natural speed/power).

    Mosley did hit him with a big shot. Judah could kind of punch.
     
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  14. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley: Had power, was not a devastating puncher at the time or weight.
    Maidana: His power is overrated and certainly not 'devastating' at 147.
    Pacquaio: Certainly not a devastating puncher at 147.
    Marquez: Don't know how on earth you can consider him a 'devastating' puncher in his first fight at 147 when he was never considered a devastating puncher at 140, 135, 130, or really even 126.
    Castillo: Worthy of being called a devastating puncher at 135.
    Corrales: 100% a devastating puncher.
     
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  15. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay no.... MAB was fighting at 122 from until 2001, his first ever fight at 126 was against Naz.

    How are you arguing that Floyd was already big at 147 in '05 when his first ever fight at WW was in November of that year and he came into the ring at 148? Winky fought at 160 (and never fought below 160 again in his entire career) a month after Floyd fought at 140 in 2005 and then made a mandatory defense...

    Hatton? I love Ricky, but Floyd fought him in '07 and outclassed him.

    Naz? Floyd wanted to make the fight, what are you gonna do?

    Freitas? Who got his head knocked off and quit against Chico AFTER Floyd has schooled Chico? Come on, man.
     
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