Only 3 of these 11 Boxing Writers had Paul Williams Winning -- Wow!!!!

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  1. Ring Master

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    While you have a valid point i don't feel it applies here. Williams punches were clean scoring punches.

    Ledermen , Merchant , and the offical judges have it right. while u may like Margo's blows more, Williams scored and u can't take it away from him.

    A lay up counts just like a dunk 2 points, just less exciting.
     
  2. PBF P4P #1

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    Seriously this isnt BHop/Taylor I or Winky/Taylor this fight was clearly controlled by PW and the decision was just.
     
  3. Ring Master

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  4. divac

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    Bad analogy friend!
    Thats where you have it wrong......boxing is'nt a basketball game. A dunk counts just as much as a layup......

    ......but in boxing, authority and effectiveness of a blow is the most important scoring criteria. A dunk in boxing (a right hand down the pike with power) would count alot more than layup (an average jab not thrown with much power behind it)
     
  5. divac

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    I dont know what fightjudge is, but I'd guess it would be just a forum like here at ESB......with most being lead by the hand by the HBO boxing team!
     
  6. Ring Master

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    The point was the scoring. And paul scored more. Clean clear punches are just that. you can not score impact b/c you can't feel.

    If he punched so hard he would have knocked him out.
     
  7. divac

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    Then you just told me that you score through amatuer rules, where a nothing jab that lands, counts just as much as a right hand bomb that staggers.
    In case you did'nt know, in the amatuers, that is exactly the case.
     
  8. Ring Master

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    Your hearing what you want at this point. I cleary stated clean clear punches. We are speaking on professional boxing, and what happend in the ring tonight between Williams and Margarito.
     
  9. divac

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    I'm hearing what you stated, go back and read.....
    .....without realising it, you're clearly describing that you score through amatuer rules.
     
  10. Toopretty

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    The funny thing to ask is, which one of the first 6 rounds did they give to margarito...lol let see the break down round by round and you can see who is full of ****..then you can replay the fight and watch the round and see Williams not only hitting the bum but hurting the bum especially to the body. Margarito didnt even land a punch until about round 7..lol clowns in denial..
     
  11. divac

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    There is a thread out that asks for scores......funny, but I'm about the only one that broke down the fight, and gave a round by round score.

    .....read it and wheep!:lol: ;)
     
  12. kirk

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    honestly.... i didnt even see a close fight, but seeing doug and kim both scored it for margarito, i guess ill go back and take a look when i have a chance, cuz... honestly, i dont see it.

    i know for a fact i gave the first 5 out of 6 rounds to williams, and 12th, to williams.... that means margarito would have had to win the rest of the rounds and imo he just didnt do that.

    my god.... i just dont see the 'controversy'. if there was ever a tough, rough battle that was decently close but dominated by one guy... this was it imo. williams won the early rounds.... margarito had a rally, and williams closed the show. i just dont see how margarito can make a case.

    hell... even MUNDO... who is a margarito FAN, thought that PW won.
     
  13. Ambition_Def

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    They were influenced by the crowd. Pretty simple if you ask me.

    Margarito himself has said that he thought he was winning going into the 9th. Call me crazy but I think thats the first time Margarito has seen a crowd so up for him to win. They cheered just about anytime he landed. It likely had alot to do with his lax attitude in the ring and the weird scoring ringside.
     
  14. kirk

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    i mean... when i am watching, yes i take into account all the punches landed and missed... but also, this isnt ****ing rocket science guys... its a fight, and honestly, it wasnt... THAT close. PW owned.... up until around the 5th, 6th round did it even get really competetive, marg then started to actually WIN rounds... and you could tell because wow, he was actually LANDING telling shots (which no... he really wasnt doing before) i mean, you can look at a fight and tell who has the upperhand, momentum, and is winning when someone DOES have those things, and PW certainly did for the first half of the fight.... and sorry, but marg just didnt do enough to win the fight going down the stretch.

    even larry merchant said

    sometimes theres a differance between watching a fight on tv, and watching a fight close in person, and you see two differant things.... based on ledermans card... this isnt one of those times.

    basically saying that PW was owning both perspectives.
     
  15. PBF P4P #1

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    This doesn't surprise you does it? Wouldn't matter what happened and they would have had him winning the fight.