Only 3 of these 11 Boxing Writers had Paul Williams Winning -- Wow!!!!

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is from Doug Fischer's write-up of the fight:

    An informal poll of 11 ringside members of the press revealed that four scored the bout for Margarito, three scored it for Williams, and four had the bout even (114-114). It was definitely not a robbery. It was a close fight, and a darn good one.

    He must be referring to the Yahoo poll I posted at the beginning of the thread
     
    paulfv, Jul 16, 2007
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  2. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your a scumbag for trying to make this a racial thing.
     
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  3. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm gonna have to watch again, I had it 7-5 for PW. . . but those body shots from AM may have been heavier than I thought and he did block alot of PW's flicking punches. But it seems PW simply outworked him for almost all of the first 6 or 7 rounds.
     
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  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Really sad stuff by him.
     
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  5. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had it the same as you did, 7-5 for PW. I'll watch it again with the sound down and see if it changes my opinion.

    Forget about the "Margo 'huggers" like Kim and Fischer. I've always respected Tim Smith. If he had it a draw, I'm going to take that seriously.
     
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  6. Cerberus

    Cerberus Kérberos, Hound of Hades Full Member

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    I scored it 8-4 for Paul and I felt I was actually being kinda lenient towards Margarito. Two of those four rounds I gave to Margarito could've been scored 10-10 IMO.

    I just watched the fight again with the sound off, and I even tried to watch it through Margarito fans' biased-tinted glasses and the best I could come up with is 7-5 for Paul. I still cannot, for the life of me, understand how ANYONE can score it a draw, much less a win for Margarito.

    How the hell did these guys at Yahoo get their jobs?
     
    Cerberus, Jul 16, 2007
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  7. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thing is, a few of those guys (like Tim Smith of the NY Daily News) are very well-respected guys. I guess they saw something different at ringside or were affected by the crowd or something.

    I still have to watch it again.
     
    paulfv, Jul 16, 2007
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  8. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    I only see 4 writers giving it to Margo... where did you get 8 from?

    Either way, depending on how you score a fight, it was a close match. Really, it was the last round that sealed it for Williams.
     
    Tettsuo, Jul 16, 2007
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  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only 3 had PW winning, including 4 who had the fight a draw.

    I agree with you, when I watched it I thought the 12th round gave it to PW. So did 2/3 of the judges.
     
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  10. markbrooklyn

    markbrooklyn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL Fear in Williams eyes? He had NO fear of Margarito at all. Just look at the staredown.. Margarito wouldnt even look at him he was lookin down the whole time.. And Williams came out in the 12th round and shut him out. And power in Margaritos shots? Please hes very overrated when it comes to power. Williams beat him pretty easily.
     
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  11. markbrooklyn

    markbrooklyn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL@ "Physical Dominance" Please explain. So you're saying if you hit a guy 100 times in the face with average power on them that you'll lose if ur opponent hits you 10 times with a little more then average power behind them? Give me a break.. Who are you? Margaritos Promoter? Hahaha
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Margarito's fists are neither feather nor iron. They are the embodiment of 'average'. Paul was never seriously hurt by any one shot.
     
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  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I'm talking about power per shot. Remember, this is pro fighting, not amateur fighting where you score based on # of hits. Or when Margo almost took out Williams in the 11th. In the pros, power matters. Williams never even came close to hurting Margo, whereas Margo almost took out Williams. Judges take that stuff into account in pro scoring.
     
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  14. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    THAT LIST IS NOT ALL THE PRESS. ITS ONLY A SELECTION OF WRITERS.

    The de la hoya pbf fight was different matter. WILLIAMS COULD OF WON ALL ROUNDS BUT ONE (11TH)
     
    TIGEREDGE, Jul 16, 2007
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  15. Ramshall1

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    Anyone who had PW winning a landslide does not know how to score effective body punches.
     
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