Only 3 of these 11 Boxing Writers had Paul Williams Winning -- Wow!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by paulfv, Jul 15, 2007.


  1. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AM DID SOME GOOD WORK BUT SO DID PAUL IN EVERY ROUND NEARLY
    HE WAS TAKIN 3 PUNCHES TO LAND ONE. WHEN TONIO LANDED ONE GOOD SHOT WILLIAMS WOULD RESPOMND WITH 3 OR 4 CLEANS SHOTS

    THERES NO WAY YOU COULD SAY ANTONIO WON
     
  2. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats not what I said.
     
  3. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    And Margaret came out in the 12th, and did ****. That's what his ass gets. No more ****ing excuses please.
     
  4. DatBo215

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    I agree with the Decision and I feel Paul won the fight, but i think it was alot closer then many of you are making it and I think that you could even make a case for a draw. Williams was throwing outragous amounts ouf punches, but margo landed the more effective punches. At no time in the fight was margo hurt. I felt alot of his inactivity was due to him trying to figure out how to fight a taller man, margo being 5'10 and taller than most of his other opponents, and williams holding. I felt his holding was lil much, but effective. Whenever margo got into a rythm paul would hold and the ref let him go with it until about the 7th or 8th round, and i feel you the difference was evident. I'm not making excuses, it was a good move by paul to hold, but it showed when he didn't. Also Margo had paul hurt on a number of occassions with body shots through out and a few head shots in the 11th. Paul was the one cut and the side of his face was swollen. I do agree with the decision and like the two of the judges felt paul had to win the last round inorder to win or else i would have called it a draw.
     
  5. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've been trying to read your posts with a degree of open-mindedness, but your agenda becomes transparent when you make a baseless assertion such as this. Williams was stunned on a couple of occasions, but he never wobbled or even stopped throwing. At no point was he in serious trouble, and it's absurd to suggest otherwise.

    And I value the opinion of the ringcard girls as much as I do the wonderful intellectuals at MaxBoxing. In my experience, the journalists tend to be swayed much more by the crowd than they should be. I'd like to see where anyone could find seven rounds for Margarito. That's astounding, considering that he clearly lost five of the first six along with the 12th.
     
  6. maracho

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    Yeah they could hear the body punches and did you all see who's face looked beat up? ...and Margaito cuts fairly easy.

    However, since Williams won most the early rounds and the last I scored the fight for him. Williams made a fan out of me like he said he would and I hope he becomes like another Tommy Hearns but maybe I also need to watch the fight again.
     
  7. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you saying Williams wasn't badly hurt in the 11th?

    Again, power of shots is one element which separates professional scoring from amateur scoring. Williams pitty-patted Margarito all night, never coming close to hurting him, whereas Margarito had Williams in real trouble in the 11th, and was landing some bombs.

    I'm suggesting that the 8/11 writers who did not have Williams winning the fight in this poll could have been giving Margarito more credit for the heavier blows landed. I don't know, I guess we'll have to ask them.
     
  8. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Williams won get over it i say.

    it was the right decision. Margarito needed the 12th to even stand a chance and he didnt win it. Williams by 2 rounds.
    also i thought that the 3 judges were great because how often do you see judges not get the score of a fight even close.
    but 2 judges in this fight had it 115-113 which i feel was spot on.
     
  9. pablogad

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    I've got to say this post takes the biscuit!!! To quote that several boxing writers had the fight for Margo over Williams is as pointless as it is ridiculous; then to say that you used previous supposed expert analysis as the basis to change your original assessment of the mayweather dela hoya fight leaves me speechless.

    You worry me greatly. I suppose if these guys told you to jump off a cliff you'd do that too!!!
     
  10. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm saying he wasn't "almost taken out." He was stunned, but he wasn't ever close to being dropped or stopped. That, in my mind, is why he wasn't in serious trouble. I think Chad Dawson was in more trouble against Adamek, and yet I wouldn't say he was almost taken out, either.

    And I'm aware of the value of power shots. I think you'll have trouble finding enough power shots outside of the rounds everyone gave to Margarito to justify a Margo win, or even a draw. I also believe you are overlooking some very good shots landed by Williams. Most of his shots were light, but the fact that Margo has a beard obfuscated the fact that there were a few decent power shots in the rounds Williams won.

    Again, let's make sure we query the custodians and ring card girls while we're busy tracking down the expert judgment of Steve Kim.