Only 7k tickets sold for Fury v Wilder so far!

£20 uk for a fight taking place when 90% ? guess of the country is asleep
and 20% guess of those that pay maybe more will fall asleep before the fight takes place.

 

But do you see the difference?
Joshua has to do 1M PPV when Wilder can match that same level of revenue with 300K PPV Buys because of the US PPV Market.
Mayweather became the richest athlete on forbes because of the US PPV Market. So I don’t get why Hearn criticises a very successful buisness model.

350K is a reasonable estimate, it’s a realistic figure. Again Uk Tickets are cheap too. US Prices
for Gate will also bring in considerable revenue add in the International Revenue from the Uk and other countries it will come close to Joshua’s fights apart from Klitschko and Parker

If in a highly unlikely scenario Wilder-Fury does 500K+ US PPV Buys, Hearn will have to offer 60/40 or delay the fight so it takes place in ths US.

Best scenario is

 

he pulled that on Wlad twice with no repercussions.

 

The point is 350k buys in a market as big as America isn't great.

Trying to make it equal with what AJ does in the UK doesn't work as Wilder had a far bigger market to work with so in theory should be doing more revenue than AJ does on PPV.

When people were taking about a Wilder v AJ fight in the US all you Wilder fans were claiming it would he huge and could sell 1m PPV Buys.

When Wilder v Fury was made ya'll were not talking about 350k buys. This was supposed to be huge and Wilder was ready for PPV etc etc.

Now suddenly we are talking about 350k and its a success if it matches the revenue AJ generates in a much smaller market?

The bar is just getting lower and lower.

 

no way he is getting 350k ppv buys. when he was on free tv vs a basketball game, hockey game, and a car race, he came in 4th, with probably barely a million watching.

 

It's a successful business model if it's repeatable. The evidence suggests however that the current approach is killing boxing as a mass market sport in the US, as you've said yourself further above. The relentless maximisation of revenue in one fight has come at the expense of large numbers of consumers finding other interests. That drives down advertising revenues, which encourages short sighted promoters to hike the price of their PPV and the cycle continues.

Outside of Floyd, who arguably rode the tail end of Boxing's time as a mass appeal sport and before him Oscar who effectively monetised the growing Latino market, the trends in US boxing are all going one way and until decision makers revise their current flawed model that will continue.

 

No repercussions other than being stripped of all his titles.

 

Yeah there's a difference, but not the one you seem focused on. Joshua doing 1 mill is his bare minimum, he did 1.1 mill vs Povetkin, 1.4 mill vs Parker, 1.5 mill vs Wlad. You are using a very baseline level PPV number of 1 mill that Joshua would make fighting someone like Pulev or Miller, in comparison to Wilder fighting a big name like Fury, that's not a fair comparison.

Wilder fights Ortiz he made $2.1 mill did just over a mill on a non PPV event. Joshua fighting Ortiz in the UK does 1 mill, maybe more on PPV and Joshua makes $15 mill or so. That's a more fair comparison, if you are going to use 1 mill PPV as a compariosn for Joshua.

You comparing Wilder/Fury to Joshua's most base level sales is laughable. Joshua/Fury easily does 1.5 mill in the UK, that would mean Wilder has to do 518,700 PPV's. Then maybe Wilder get's 50/50.

 

I would love to know what money would of been generated if Joshua sold his normal amount of tickets and PPV's based on what Deontay is charging for this next fight of his.

I also wonder how popular Wilder would be in the States had he faced and beaten the people on Joshua's resume instead of who he has been facing.

 

All these expectations for Wilder vs Fury are ridiculous. Realistically, if it does anything over 200k buys its been a huge success for these 2. Neither Ward -Kovalev 1 and 2 or Golovkin vs Jacobs could crack 200k. Anything between 150k-200k, not too bad. Between 100k-150k, myeah, first timers. Below 100k is the only figure you'd get worried about.

 

I've said many times how wrong I was about Floyd vs. McGregor, I predicted it would do 250k and I looked like a complete fool. Once again I am predicting a flop: Fury vs. Wilder will do 250k. Maybe I am jinxing it again, we'll see.

 

That was quite naive because both fighters had a big history of successful PPV fights.