ONLY a few more DAYS till KESSLER gets that ASS tapped!

HAtton was te man because he beat a shot KOsta Tsyzu who was basically allowed to be raped by HAtton. He really has noone else on his resume except an iffy decision against Collazo where he was hurt, a win against a shot Castillo , Paulie MAlignaggi and Juan Urango.

A fighter like HAtton would never achieve that sort of fame in the USA on such a weak clip

He held a paper title for 10 years, and by the time he decided to step up his comp, the best 3 fighters of his generation were either past it, Roy Jones Jr and BErnard Hopkins or long gone, James TOney. He then didnt even take a fight with the next up and coming champion Chad Dawson, and instead decided to fight a shot ROy who was struggling with Anthony Hanshaw instead.

Sorry, Khan already faced his miranda in briedis prescott and got KO'd. He's now on perminant cherry picking status courtesy of Freddie Roach.

 

Yeah, Miranda didnt land anything on PAvlik, he didnt catch him with any big shots coming in or combinations.

****,I can see why you're dumb enough to believe KEssler would stand a chance against Dawson

 

As usual you are showing your ignorance. RJJ and Toney were fighting above 168 before Calzaghe ever won a belt. It is well know Bernard backed out of a made deal for a Calzaghe fight while both were prime. Calzaghe won all the belts at 168. Other than the WBO title which was vacant he did that by beating the respective champions. Thus he didnt just hold a paper title but rather he was, at least to anyone that knows jack **** about boxing, "The Man."

As for him fighting Dawson that is just laughable. Firstly he would have got no credit at all for the one sided beatdown he would have inevitably laid on the green Chad but also he wouldnt have made any real money out of it either. Had he beaten Chad you would now just be saying he didnt fight Tarver or Johnson or Froch or Bute or AA or whoever else you want to pull out of your arse. No one can fight forever, Hopkins excepted.

 

Pavlik controlled literally every second of every round, from the opening bell! atsch

Psst! Don't look now, but Kelly isn't exactly a defensive wizard. Yeah, no **** he took some feeble ass get-offa-me-please punches from Mr. Can't Fight Off The Backfoot Worth ****, but he was whipping that man's ass from pillar to post all night long, without exception. Hell, ****ing Pantera2000 will be the first to tell you that!

****, I can see now that you're just deliberately trolling and not merely biased. That level of stupidity (Miranda had his moments against Pavlik...:rofl) simply doesn't exist in real life.

 

Idiot

He has no one on his record except 5 of the best in the division. You twat.

 

JOe Calzaghe won the vacant WBO :rofl Supermiddleweight title in :rofl1997

Roy JOnes jr was fighting in and around 168-175 from 96-2003. Calslap just happened to be defending his WBO strap against Tucker Pudwill and MArio Viet.

Oh and lets not forget about him backing out of a fight with Glen Johnson, not once, not twice, but 3 times.

Also, if Calslap had been willing to fight outside of Wales, Hopkin would have fought him.

You dumbass. Calzaghe didnt become the man before he beat Mikkel Kessler, a decade after he first gained the WBO paper belt. HE basically held the worst belt, in the worst division in sports for 10 years before trying to unify.

If you have a rebuttal to his lack of basically any resume at all, name one Hofer he beat in his prime.

:rofl:rofl:rofl YEah, he wouldnt have gotten credit for beating the best lightheavy in the world, a 6'3 southpaw who beat the current cruiser weight champion of the world, but he should get credit for fighting a shot roy jones jr, and even managing to get knocked down.

Incredible, you calslap ***s I tell ya. YOu have an excuse for everything.

Calslap was still in great shape, still had excellent skills, yet decided after basically a less then stellar career, to retire with an undefeated record, never fought the elite of his age, and thinks someone will remember him other then his nuthuggers. Well I got news for you.atsch Better give himself one his own patented slaps

 

Ward is counting on his judges and referee to give him a decision. All Ward has to do is run, hold, fall down on canvas and complain. Ward's commentators will tell that running is boxing.

Some think that running is all a fighter has to do to win, as long as it is their favorite fighter, such as Dirrell, and Haye, for example.

What if both fighters ran?

 

Ridiculous. BHOP was past prime before Trinidad (when he was nearly 37). Being well conditioned, competent and ring savvy in late middle age don't make ya prime man.

 

5 of the best in the division, and who exactly would that be? :rofl Faded tzsyu? Shot castillo. Paulie "fists of a feather" malignaggi?

 

Dirrell did very little running. I felt he should have been mobile with is jab and would have had a much easier time. But when he sat down on his punches the class difference was apparent.

I believe if Ward lets his hands go, the class difference will also be apparent

 

Dont confuse prime and peak.

 

You do realize when he turned pro, right? His prime sure didn't come in his 20s.

 

I just hope all those bigmouths will eat their crow after Kessler has won the fight, but I doubt it, the threadstarter for example badmouthed Abraham and was unusualy quiet after the fight.

I wonder what he and Danny will do after the fight


..and be sure I will be here IF (!!!) Kessler looses

 

Yeah, I'm not going anywhere. :yep

 

Sure it did. Prime ALWAYS refers to physical prime.

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I'm slightly older than Bernard and have watched his career as it happened (not on tapes and out of context) and first saw him fight in the early 90s. He remains one of my favorites however ....

Bernard's prime was over by the end of the 90s.


As I responded to another (bogus) statement regarding Bernard's level in his fight against RJJ and covered this ending period of his career:

Q - So you are saying that B-Hop was a complete fighter when he fought Roy?

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5144041#post5144041

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Everyone young seems to forget Bernard's time at Graterford Prison. He knew well how to fight from very early on. He was no novice against RJJ. The optimal combination of relative youth, maturity, athleticism, and ring experience was passed before the Trinidad fight (in which he was past both his fighting peak and physical prime). The supposed (earlier) fight with Calz would have meant a prime Calz versus a past prime Hopkins.