Only Leonard could have beat Hagler on that night

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Top line - Most if not all fighters in history will fall behind on the cards vs prime Hearns until they wear him down or stop him, look at the height, reach, speed, power & excellent boxing skills to make it all count.

    Next line - Not a BETTER fighter, just a DIFFERENT fighter.
    MMH was bigger & stronger than SRL but on evidence not better H2H & certainly not better p4p. I know it hurts but its true.

    Also, most had Hearns winning rd 1 vs MMH so I suppose he did have to come from behind in a way tho before you get in there 1st, not to the same extent as Ray had to.

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  2. birddog

    birddog Active Member Full Member

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    It would be cool if we could all watch this fight (or any fight) on a "video chat" type of thing. Then score the round after each round and discuss real time.
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler didn't fall behind and he took him out right away proving he was light years better and that he could have done the same to leonard had it been the same Hagler. I know it hurts but it's true just like what Norris did to leonard is true.

    It's true folks!

    Also I'd like to know how is leonard better if he had to wait 5 years to call him out?
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hagler's weight for Hamsho I, 157lbs

    3lbs more south and Hagler refused. TRUE
     
  5. birddog

    birddog Active Member Full Member

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  7. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns could of beat him and so could michael nunn IMO
     
  8. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    You are right on that one I think.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    hagler fought hearns at 160lb, heanrs was nowehre near as effectice or dominating as he was 147lb, a better more dangerous fighter. also its not like hagler escaped uninjured.....hagler got a nasty cut that if he didnt knockout hearns when he did, the fight was close to being stopped on cuts.
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    The fight wasn't close to being stopped on cuts. The amount of blood coming down Hagler's face was what alerted Steele to call a 'time out' and send Hagler over to the ring doctor. But when the doctor had a look at the cut, he said quickly " It's not bothering wth his sight, let him go" and the decision by the doctor was done without hesitation. The cut was in the middle of Hagler's forehead and it wasn't bad enough for it being stopped.

    Going on all the evidence, the fight wasn't close to being stopped.
     
  11. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard looked "Marvelous" on that night. (Pardon the Pun)! But Hagler was slipping. He was still a great fighter, but age was starting to tell and he was starting to look beatable. The average contenders couldn't have done it. But some of the bigger name fighters of the day. Might have had a decent shot of pulling it off.
     
  12. Dave's Top Ten

    Dave's Top Ten Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed. I liken Hagler's decline to the decline of Larry Holmes. Hagler was still looking like a good champion while he could continue to use his strength and experience against the likes of Hamsho, Hearns and Mugabi as Holmes did against Bonecrusher, Bey, Williams etc. Leonard was to Hagler what Spinks was to Holmes - a younger underdog who wasn't expected to topple a long term champ, but had one specific ingredient - speed that you don't usually find at the weight, which was perfect against an over the hill fighter who was still looking good enough against the right opponents. Spinks saw something that most of us didn't see, as did Leonard.
     
  13. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good analysis, However there was no way Spinks deserved those decisions against Holmes. Larry beat him both times. Even moreso in the rematch. Terrible way to bring down a great Champion.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Mesmerising.... Astonishing.... Hilarious

    Not much else to say here HAGLERfans

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  15. Dave's Top Ten

    Dave's Top Ten Active Member Full Member

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    Calm down, son. As a Hagler fan, I wouldn't agree with any of that. I don't think Hagler clearly won, and I don't think Leonard ran for 2mins 40 of each round. Don't paint us all with the same brush