Only ONE Person In The P4P Top Ten Has Never Struggled Or Faced Adversity...

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Lost to Cuadras and lost the first Gonzalez fight too.
     
  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    "On his feet" being the operative part there.
     
  3. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great point! Dominance against your toughest competition is what makes a top p4p boxer!

    Part of p4p too of course is moving up in weight and beating champions. And Inoue's not only done that, he's dominated those bigger champions! He jumped from light fly to super fly and destroyed the great Omar Narvaez. And in his last fight he jumped to bantam to destroy the really good, much naturally bigger Jamie McDonnell. How often do we see that in boxing?

    Everyone's just splitting hairs over Loma and Crawford. The Salido fight's been gone over enough, Salido didn't expose Loma, Loma was the better man that night, and he's obviously an improved 12 round pro and that fight can't be held against his current standing. And Crawford got caught with and felt a Gamboa punch but beat him up and stopped him, so what, he didn't get exposed or even truly challenged, and he's dominated everyone else. I love Usyk, but he was challenged by Briedis more than Crawford was challenged by Gamboa.

    Meaning while we can give special recognition to Inoue, Loma and Crawford with Inoue stand out above anyone else as the three most dominant boxers on the planet. That's why I strongly disagree with anyone who doesn't have them as top 3 p4p.
     
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  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    usyk beat at least 1, he was in a unification tournie.

    golovkin not yet but just u wait

    mikey, sure

    spence not so much.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    What would you say to a p4p list that gets updated at the end of each year and doesn't take into account the previous resume? I see a lot of guys retaining p4p cred even in years where their achievement has been wanting. They coast on past laurels. Personally, I'd like to see them prove themselves and constantly be earning their position. I was even working on something like that in my last thread.
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/p4p-2012-2017.612454/
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    How was Spence taken into deep waters by a guy he was beating the crap out of from round 6 until he quit?

    I don't get this thread. Spence lost 3 close rounds to Brook out of the first 5 and then whooped this butt. Is that deep waters?
     
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  8. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Inoue wins the boxing super series he will be number 1! No doubt about that! One of my favorite fighters right now!
     
  9. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Adversity is when you fight someone who has pulse.:hang
    Fighting Sardine cans is another story....:nonono
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Lomachenko: False, he was robbed against Salido.
    Usyk: False, beating Briedis 117-111 isn't struggling.
    Golovkin: False, closest fight he won 115-112.
    Clenelo: True. All of it.
    Spence: True. He lost 5 rounds FIVE ****ING ROUNDS.:scared1
    Garcia: True. Looked like dog**** against all three.
    Rungvisai: False. Looked excellent beating a guy everyone thought would beat him.
    Joshua: True, its damn true.
     
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  11. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Consider the opposition.
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Not to rain on your parade or anything @Tomato(e) Can but...... there was this match.

    His performance is... what you could call, a struggle, where he faced adversity.:)
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  13. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LMAO it's amazing how people really believe these silly myths. The ref didn't know what he was doing. Once Bute got up the fight was over, the fight was finished before he ever went to yell at Andrade for no reason
     
  14. dominatorh

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    "Usyk had to fight hard and really earn the victory against Usyk."
    let's pretend that makes sense.
     
  15. dominatorh

    dominatorh Member Full Member

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    no he wasn't
     
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