between mw and smw would be calzaghe and kessler,there is no one else who could stop him between these weights,he would beat king arth,wright ,duddy,bute and froch.he has already beaten miranda and taylor. i cant see anyone else who could beat him with the exception of jc and mk. your thoughts???
Calzaghe decision him. Kessler too. Winky aswell if he's not rusty going into the fight. Abraham would knock him out. Hopkins is going to beat him aswell.
jc prime would have killed pavlik and i still think that if the fight is in the next 6-8 months jc would still win. kessler i think had a 55-45 chance of winning as i think he is bigger and more ortodox and would keep pavlik at the end of his jab all night. only chance pavlik got is to get onto the inside and rough kessler up but evweryone knows that pavlik does not like fighting on the inside
JC prime never wanted a prime world class fighter to take on, so giving him credit for 'killing' a guy who taken more chances than calzaghe every has in his career is being blinkered.
That's not true and that's his biggest problem vs. good punchers. He likes to trade toe-to-toe and it would be his undoing vs. the likes of JC, Kessler, Abraham, to name a few...
Arthur Abraham definitely has the power to stop Pavlik, i'd favour a Pavlik UD but AA has the power to do it. It isn't out of the question. Calzaghe isn't getting any younger, his next fight against Jones will probably tell us a lot about his current state. A year ago Joe boxes Pavlik to a comfortable decision, next year, he might get put on the canvas a few times if they fight. Kessler has all the tools to beat Kelly but i am not sure about his grit and determination when the going gets tough. I think we will probably learn a lot about the whole scenario in the next few months.
Good thread - i agree totally. who, if you had to pick one, would be the third toughest fight for pavlik? i would say Bute right now.
I am the weight Kelly Pavlik is at - and I think I could beat him: with a 0.0001 chance of success. My point being: boxing is a lot about probability and there quiet a number of guys out there who have a 10% + chance of beating him.
yeah but they are talking about people who would have the probabilty in their favour in beating him, joe would, kessler would, other than that i really can't see anyone else although i do think there is a decent chance bhop wins,but he just doesnt have the workrate anymore although he will make KP fight alot on the inside and we havent seen him do too much of that before!a prime winky would be postive probability but winky now??????bad chad dawson gets beat down by him,bute simply would be overpowered. for AA beats pavlik but it would be 55-45 in his favour!