Oops, You Shoulda Tooken That Fight (!)

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Mikey could have negotiated fights for Cotto and Linares only. He was offered a one fight deal with Linares.

    Pac beats Broner and Garcia in more impressive fashion than Mikey and Thurman. And no, Garcia received 2 million and I think Broner received 1 million.

    There's a video of Ward saying that he absolutely should fight Bute and then later on he retracted.
     
  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn’t mention Linares I said the Cotto deal. I think he wanted Linares but once Loma got involved Linares took that deal.

    Garcia would beat Pacquiao for my money and I’m not sure if Pac could beat Broner in a more impressively fashion. If he can’t beat Horn then I can’t say that.

    If you show me that video I will retract it, however I don’t think Ward ducked Bute, Bute beat no one of note, he was free to enter the tournament and opted not too. It would be the equivalent of me saying Groves ducked Ramirez if he doesn’t unify with him in the future.

    Broners purse was undisclosed so I don’t think he got 1 mil at all. Garcia was garuntees 2mil but he probably got more on the back end.
     
  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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  4. Badbot

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    I love Ward but dude had a huge ego.
    Never heard of that deal but it sound like a really good one.
    But Ward got lucky with the Roc Nation deal.
     
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  5. Badbot

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    Funny how Adonis failed to fight either of the two Canadian super stars.
     
  6. Robney

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    Barrera should have taken the Kovalev fight. He probably woyld have been stopped in that fight too, but for significantly more money and against a bigger name.

    Garcia should have fought Bowe, he got a $1.5m offer and thought he could get more if he won a couple more fights... he got KO'd in his very next fight and never got himself back in contention after.
     
  7. jmashyaka

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    I can fully acknowledge the first video but just because he said the winner of the tournament should fight Bute, doesn’t mean he meant, right after the tournament was won? Does it?

    where’s the video of him saying him saying he won’t fight Bute?
     
  8. Tomato(e) Can

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    [url]http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/7372586/andre-ward-lucian-bute-bout-looks-unlikely-time-being[/url]

    "To be perfectly honest, no disrespect to Bute and his team, but they've sat back and they've fought B-level and C-level guys and he did what he was supposed to do," said Ward, failing to grasp that Bute wasn't invited to the Super Six and had no A-level opponents available to him. "He stopped them and he's gotten them out of there. But he's just been sitting back, waiting, while we've been fighting for the past two and a half years against top-level competition.

    "So I don't have to go to Lucian Bute right now," Ward said.
     
  9. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at that last sentence? I don’t have to go to Bute right now. Bare in mind it doesn’t say I have no intention of fighting Bute. If Bute had beaten Froch all the pressure would have been on Ward and him to fight but he couldn’t get past that assignment and got sparked.

    Please look at Butes record and show
    the A level name that Bute beat? Why didn’t Butes team pursue the Stiglietz fight whilst he waited for the tournament to end?
     
  10. jmashyaka

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    However I would take back what I said about Bute not entering the tournament, I didn’t know he wasn’t invited.
     
  11. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Right or wrong, Bute was seen as the Last Man Standing. The division would have been officially cleaned out if Ward had fought Bute. I think Ward would have won, but I think Ward wasn't ultra confident because unlike the Super Sixers, Bute was kind of an unknown, but was flashing a dangerous proposition.

    Ward went from saying the winner absolutely should fight Bute to saying Bute should do this or that. Same way Floyd ducked by saying Pac had Bradley/Marquez problems.
     
  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree Ward should have fought Bute in retrospect and I think he would of if Bute had beaten Froch. However I still agree with him at the time for asking Bute to beat a name, like I said that would be equivalent of Ramirez expecting Groves to fight him right after the WBSS tournament. It wouldn’t be fair imo.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    Ward would have beaten Bute worse than PBF beat Gatti.:deal: I have always said this and it would have been funny to watch. Ward had already won the Super 6 and proven that he was the best at 168. Who was Bute? A guy who was put on ***** st by a limited plodder Andrade and needed to be saved by a hometown ref to boot. The first time he got a chance to step up in comp he melted down in grand fashion and was brutally stopped by Froch
     
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  14. C.J.

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    That Super 6 was orchestrated to make sure Ward won it
     
  15. Pimp C

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    Stop it! It was actually set up for either Kessler or Abraham to win it. Ward was thrown in as filler. He was an opponent.
     
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