OP thinks Holyfield would beat Ali prime for prime

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do tell
     
  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he wasn't.
    Tyson in 1990 was damaged goods, the product of an unstable life outside of the ring, as well as a cash cow who was poorly managed.
     
  4. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Active Member Full Member

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    He was 23, at the peak of his career, and had his two arguably best career-wins against Ruddock right after Douglas smashed him up, blitzing Stewart in 1 round along the way who busted Foreman up.

    He wasn’t washed, he just wasn’t fighting with shot drug addicts from the 80s anymore.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Was he at his “best”? No, no one is at there peak there entire “prime” Tyson was still a dedicated pro he took Douglas lightly and ended up in a fight he wasn’t mentally ready for… Dorsey vs Paez is similar. If Tyson was game and prepared for a real bout I don’t know if he’d win, Douglas’s plan is exactly how to frustrate Tyson and undress his style. I believe M Tyson was the next best boxer at HW besides Louis and by Ruddock he was fighting like a generic HW and stopped interesting me but vs Douglas he was out-thought and out-fought contenders are pretty good at there job, unexpected by pro boxers can fight pretty well, me as much as anyone wants to give Tyson slack but I’m not blind.
     
  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Same deal as Foreman people want to make a fighters prime for the length of there success and no longer, I’m a big fan of Tyson but Tokyo was a “prime” fight and he lost… Douglas hatched the right plan for Tyson, Ali with Foreman, Young beat a better version of GF IMO but sometimes it also just doesn’t work out “master plan” or no Quarry fought to a tee exactly how you should vs Frazier right up until the hand break, Holmes did what he was supposed to be MT till he got up on his toes and yes did get caught on the ropes… I prefer to rate on longevity Holmes, Louis, Ali bypassed there “Douglas’s” Tyson did not… well Ali did sort of, he avenged it at least.
     
  7. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    He more or less does about as good as Patterson
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    What the F… no :lol: come on brother
     
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