Thought it was worth a thread after it was used in the Canelo fight. To me it seems the level of dislike of it is a little bit bizarre. I'm probably against it on balance but partially just because I don't like change for the sake of change. If you take the Canelo fight, surely people disagree more with the actual scoring than the fact that it was open? If the scores had been more equal after 8 rounds the open scoring wouldn't have mattered; the real irritation was that they were heavily in favour of Canelo (and, at that, the promoter's fighter and cash-cow). Part of the appeal of closed scoring is simply the chaos it creates. Take Harrison-Sprott II: Sprott's trainer told him to go out and win the 12th when he actually had a big lead on the cards...Sprott emptied the tank at the start of the round and got KOd. Which was exciting. Now, that probably wouldn't have happened with open scoring, but surely it would have been fairer to Sprott? The confusion, and the general mistrust of the closed scorecards (and a bad call by his trainer) came to cost him the fight. To play devil's advocate, you could play a football match without a crossbar and use a video review to tell if high shots were goals or not but not tell the players. That would make the end of games more exciting if people weren't sure what the actual score was - but it would clearly be ridiculous. Isn't closed scoring actually quite similar? And - if you're Austin Trout - wouldn't you prefer to know you're getting screwed on the cards after 8 rounds - when you can still do something about it - than after 12?
Open scoring is ****. The crossbar analogy you used is possibly the stupidest thing I have seen on this forum!
I hate it. I'd rather the judges robbed a fighter after 12 than warned him he was getting robbed early and forcing him to change his gameplan. It also takes the drama away in the late rounds when one fighter knows he's already won.
It's pointless, IMO. What does it actually solve? The scores could still be unfairly wide and it's not like the losing fighter can post an appeal while fighting. It takes the drama out of a points decision. They'd be better off just reading the scores and not saying who they were for. I've never understood what problem it solves.
I'm not a big fan of it, but it's bad scoring not open scoring that's the problem. If the cards in Trout vs Alvarez had been more reflective of what was actually happening in the fight up until the 8th round this would have been a none issue.
The only case I can see for it being a positive thing is if it lights a fire under the arse of the fighter who is behind on the cards. Conversely, the fighter ahead can then get on his bike, so it detracts from the fight just as much. Classic case of it not being broke, so why the **** would they try and "fix" it? Does anyone know the pro open scoring arguments bandied about by the WBC?
id rather people just ingored gift rapped decisions. in some cases like pacquiao vs bradley it so blanently a bad decision that fans should just refuses to accept it.
Takes away the suspence in a close fight if every rounds nip and took and the judges have it a shut out. Stupid rule imo
The difference between boxing is, the judging system is all based on opinion, football is based on facts so that goal thing is abit of a bad example, the thing is there's so much corruption in boxing there would be no point in putting it in now say for example Rios vs Abril, they do it and Rios is ahead, then Abril carries on outboxing him then he still loses it woulda been pointless I see what you mean about the Sprott fight but thats his trainers fault, boxing is a lonely sport, its only you and your corner your technically a team, if he's telling you to go win by ko in the last round thats on him he's to blame, open scoring would ruin alot of fights because people train 8 weeks for a gameplan to beat the other guy, if they find out their winning that gameplan goes out the window and they got on their bike and then the other guy comes out swinging, no one would be able to make predictions on how fights are gonna go because once boxers hear the score they are gonna change the way they fight which could either end up in them getting ktfo or them winning I say just leave it as it is, how it is now we can still have great fights with no excuses, with open scoring there is alot of excuses that can be made in any fight that uses it
