Opinion, Wladimir is terrible style wise for Ali.

Hard to take you serious the way you keep choosing to call him Clay. Seems like an attention gimmick.

 

Read what I said back i didnt say Haye would beat him i said it would be a competitive fight.

 

I think Wlad would indeed be a hassle for Ali to deal with. His size combined with his jab would be the main issues. Wlad's negative style is problematic for boxers in the sense that he often creates space when they initiate an attack and then impales them on his long jab. Ali would have to try and make the fight happen and he was a better counterpuncher and defensive boxer than an attacker. Not to say that Ali couldn't win, because he has a good edge in speed, but I do think he's walking uphill.

 

He wasn’t even competitive with Tony Bellew. Haye did precisely **** at heavyweight.

 

Ali’s never fought a big man as skilled as Wlad

 

That's the point I'm making though Ali would of been a cruiserweight in todays times cos he wouldnt of been able to do **** all at HW as well. I'm not undermining the guys status it's just the truth 6 ft 3 guys very rarely beat good 6 ft 6 fighters now matter how good they are.

 

Have you ever seen Peter-Wlad?

 

Not a terrible take. I think the bigger problem for Ali would be Wlad's counter jab. If Norton gave Ali fits with his imagine how he'd respond to as jab just a good but that much longer and faster.

 

Hurt, sure. Beaten?

Other than Ruiz who outweights your Classic scale by at least 30lbs even when in shape. Which small guys beat these 3?

 

Wlad's jab and grab, hug, lean, mount style is not a great match up for anyone - at least, not for those of a smaller, physical stature.

Other than Wlad's wrestling, however, I think he has little with which to maintain a consistent offensive against Ali. Wlad isn't moving anywhere near fast enough to catch Ali unawares and, if Wlad is relying on the left hook, then I think Ali is quite safe from it and prevails.

 

Byrd beat Vitali. Rahman and Brewster are comparable in size and power to a guy like Ron Lyle. Wlad could give Ali something to think about but against a smaller skilled heavy in Povetkin he resorted to clinching and Sasha has nothing on Ali

 

It was on a landslide on all 3 cards when Vitali tore his rotator cuff. More of a **** happens thing than evidence of a little guy beating a big one. You can't gameplan on the other guy mangling his shoulder mid fight. Rahman and Brewster were both bigger punchers than Ali but yes Wlad can be chinny. Lennox can be chinny. Much less so later on. Overall it's heavyweight nobody but Rocky ever got away totally clean.

Wlad didn't resort to clinching. Wlad's game plan was clinching. The smothering clinch is the single most hated and effective tactic in boxing. Because it tilts the fights so far in favor of the taller guy. He didn't "resort" to it. He actively chose to use it. Because the only time a tall guy and short guy are in a fair fight, is if the short guy is close enough to land. Wlad didn't take that chance. For the record neither did Ali who pioneered a ton of these tactics himself against Frazier. Especially in the 2nd fight.

That said Wlad is the taller guy here.

 

Ali would win, it would look terrible doing it but he still gets a decision.

 

Very good comment. I agree with it and frankly I much preferred the young Wlad that didn't clinch. I also can't argue that the huggy Wlad was much more effective particularly vs smaller guys. Ali vs Wlad might be a terrible fight to watch frankly. A bit of jabbing here and there and hugs. jabs, then hugs. Repeat 100x. Ali would be well advised not to clinch with Wlad though, because if he did his strength would be sapped completely by the late rounds. Now, if there was a ref that actually penalised the tactic, it would be much more interesting.

 

Yea, but foreman’s also had his share of off nights