Opinions on here that you strongly disagree with

1. Watching old footage, of for example Corbett and Fitz, and saying that the sport hasn't evolved since then. That Corbett would be seen as a technical marvel today as well. This is something I can't even comprehend, actually.

2. Leonard ducking Hagler. I don't know, perhaps this should have been number 1. It's also so infused with warped perception and flawed logic that it makes me a bit dizzy.

3. Size stops mattering at about 185 lbs.

4. Ali not declining because of the lay-off. This is not close to the top three, but it's is another case where people warp their logic, since the exact same who make this claim seem to take it for granted that for example Dempsey and Tyson declined because of their inactivities. It's like the causality between long inactivity and decline would somehow step politely aside if it helps the case of a fighter they like (i e making Frazier's victory more impressive).


Then there are many things I don't agree with or find overstated, but these are the ones where logic and common sense just totally are put in the back seat to emotion and bias.

 

When I put agree I was agreeing with you and not the opinion you posted as something you disagree with

I don't think Frazier wins or Margo cheated

 

Yeah, he obviously felt the time was right after the Mugabi fight. That probably had to do with how Hagler looked in that fight as well as with lots of other reasons. Boredom, restlesseness, the need for a new challenge... We humans are complex creatures who rarely understand the full scope of our reason ourselves.

But that he would retire just to wait Hagler out... That is chem trails-silly.

 

Yes size does matter but you're comparing fighters a half a century apart, not placing the moderns into past eras and not placing the older champions into the modern era and consider each scenario based on the moderns being born MUCH earlier and the older guys being born MUCH later.

 

. Your disagreeing with that statement? Personally for me anyone caught should be banned for life.

My opinions if anyones interested should be following the statements above.

 

Precisely this. Boxing also didn't get to use PEDs all the way to the late 80s-90s as boxing is always 20-30 years behind. Boxers were the only clean athletes in the 70s.

 

It’s not that boxing has not changed in the same way as other sports, its more that it hasn’t necessarily resulted in better fighters.

You could find a few heavyweights today who punched harder than Joe Louis, or were physically stronger or whatever, and he would still butcher them due to his superior technique.

Fighters are more complex entities than other athletes.

 

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Joe Louis learned everything he knew from Jack Blackburn, who fought near the turn of the century.

Joe Louis brought nothing new to the game; he merely combined the best of what was already known.

Since then nobody has surpassed him, in terms of his method!

Who could you find today to put up against him?

 

Joe Louis was likely the best athlete to hold the heavyweight title up to that point. Speed, balance, size, fluidity, power... and I only say likely because of the paucity of footage of some fighters before him.

I think the athletes have improved over the decades. There is always room for an outlier but in general it is the case.

 

Here is the problem.

Let’s say that Fury could beat him (unlikely).

Even then I could say, “now find a cruiserweight to beat him”.

He was simply better than what is around today!