Opinions on Michael Moorer?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Addie, Dec 29, 2008.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I've not really delved into his career much, but I just watched his epic contest with Bert Cooper, and watched a few Highlight videos and read up on some stuff about his career. He seemed to become light Heavy champion very early, and somewhere along the line he split from Stewart and went to Atlas. He looked like a pretty good inside fighter, with very good power, and fairly fast hands for a Heavyweight.

    Was his downfall peaking too early, or just that he couldn't take that good a shot himself? Also, why did he split from Stewart?
     
  2. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I liked watching him,i think he started at light heavy and moved up.He had a decent punch and was in some good fights.He was paid step aside money a few timws in the early 90s and should have got the Holyfield fight sooner.
    Ive heard he was hard to work with so thats probably why he split from Stewart.Teddy Atlas trained him for the Holyfield fight and did a good job motivating him.But they split as well.He was never the same after defeats against Foreman and Holyfield in a rematch.
    He tried a comeback a few years ago but it didnt work out for him.
    His down fall seems to have been of his own making through arguments with trainers,and ive heard he lacked self confidence and was quite fragile mentally.If things got tough he seemed to lose interest.
     
  3. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah moorer he tried to believe what he did was right .. no matter what the coach told him ..espessially after he won the title...the foreman fight is a good example of not paying attention and droping his gaurd .. dude didn't have it to well mentally
     
  4. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moorer's career has been over since the tua fight it seems, he really should've capitalized on the win over Jirov but instead retired, and un-retired. That's just the way his career has been, up and down.
     
  5. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fahrenheit 9/11 was pretty funny.

    Bowling for Columbine was a bit melo-dramatic for my taste, but had it's moments

    Sicko was good, but as someone already on top of that issue, I'd say it could have been much, much better.

    The one about the General Motors plant was excellent.

    Overall a pretty good filmmaker.
     
  6. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Michael Moorer was probably one of the best Light HWs ever.
     
  7. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Formerly Samurai Full Member

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    Sickly overrated at light heavyweight, despite his obvious power there.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Based on what?

    I actually think Moorer was clearly a better Heavyweight than he was a Light Heavyweight, where he gets comically overrated due to word of mouth more than anything. I doubt many have actually seen a lot of his fights there or they wouldn't be coming to these conclusions. I probably wouldn't favor him over a single LHW that I'd class as great or elite.
     
  9. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    I meant to say "could have" , but still..Just watch film of him at LHW ... sure he didn't have the great accomplishments, but thats because of a lack of opposition, so he moved up to HW. He knocked out every single person he fought at LHW and if you just WATCH film of him you can see how great he was... I really wish I could have seem him against some elites at LHW, I believe he would have been great.
     
  10. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    He had fierce power as a LHW, but even there, he was little chinny, and I am referring to how Leslie Stewart rocked him good.

    When he moved up, he filled out well, still had some power and that converted Southpaw style. He still had some power, though it was not the kind of sick power he had at LHW. He had some power.

    His main porblems were that he was very chinny, and lacked concentration.

    The chinny part was obvious- you can see it in the Copper fight. Copper could hit, ask Holyfield about that one. But lots of guys took punches off Cooper and didn;t have to climb off the canvas either. Moorer just did not have a heavyweight quality chin.

    The other thing is obvious from teh Foremand fight- he sometimes just seemd to be on another planet. He was real head case, and at times just seemd to forget to do enough to win. It was a real danger in the Holyfield fight, where Atlas was screaming at him because he was losing rounds to a guy who was having a heart attack at the time (not that Atlas knew that, but still...). The Foreman fight was the same, he just got caught when he was in la la land.

    All in all, a useful heavy, and a great member of that class of the 90's. But a lot of guys would have beat him.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    How he looked at the weight is one of my main deterrants on calling his potential. I was never terribly impressed with his skills or durability(which wouldn't fully develop until HW IMO), really the only thing exceptional about him was his power. He looked decidely mediocre against a fighter (a past prime fighter at that in Leslie Stewart) who showed him a decent return offense and a bit of slipperiness. Moorer seemed befuddled and unware of what to do when a fighter actually punched back.
     
  12. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I hate this fat anti american *******
     
  13. speedbag2000

    speedbag2000 New Member Full Member

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    He needs to lose some weight
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michael just started yesterday as Freddie Roach's assistant trainer at Wild Card Gym.

    He sounds very much at peace.
     
  15. Dirty Bastard

    Dirty Bastard Dirty As Hell Full Member

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    Big heart!!
    Great concerntration skills!!!!
    Iron jaw!!!