Opinons on Julio Cesar Chavez?

He's top ten all time for me, too. Imagine the man back in the days of the 15 rounder. Good God would a lot of terrific fighters be in a lot of trouble.

 

I agree, I think he's underrated on here. I've been watching boxing for the last 35 years and for me he's one of the best, just a natural. Looking back and watching his career in real time. He's right up there IMO.

 

I think he is brillaint

One of the best offensive boxers i have seen and definitly the best combination puncher i have seen. The way he mixed shots to the head and body seamlessly and hardly missed a shot was great to watch.

Also very underrated defencivly with a solid defence and good movement.

Chavez at LW and below was a beast.

 

I'll say one thing: Chavez defeats Floyd Mayweather easily 130-140. There's no way Floyd would cope with Chavez cutting the ring off and making him fight with his back on the ropes. Pot-shotting would do no good whatsoever against someone with a chin and defence like prime JCC. He would win almost every round en route to a UD, and would mark Floyd up bad, punish him. He would hit Floyd cleanly more than I can envisage almost anyone else doing. From watching their fights and considering their styles, I have a strong conviction on this.

 

cannot arguie against him being a top 10 atg though i dont think he makes my list. his quality of opposition was top notch. he destroyed fighters who really had the potential to be ATG (taylor, martinez and rosario) and a host of very good fighters s

if taylor had not met jcc, we would probably be talking about him as one of the greats today

he really was a career destroyer like few before or after him. who was ever the same after fighting him at his peak

 

yeh he had great timing to make up for that lack of speed. Even though he was no slouch

 

Chavez was a definite great, but I never thought he was quite on the level of the top tier of ATGs - fighters like Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Charles, Langford, or even Duran, Whitaker, or Arguello. He was ballsy as hell and fought whoever were the top guys in any weight class he was in, and his competition was consistently solid; but I never thought he beat a truly great fighter, and possibly the only true greats he ever fought were Whitaker and DeLaHoya. I think the Taylor win was sort of the pinnacle of how high a level of competition he was capable of being successful against.

 

No fighter from 130-140 would defeat Mayweather easily, if you want to believe that some would beat him then that's cool but doing it easily?....Sorry that aint happening.

 

Chavez is one of my favorite fighters, one of the guys I grew up watching, and just a marvel for doing a lot of things right, both big and small. Nothing flashy, (except when he really lets the combinations go or suddenly shocks everyone with his accuracy) but almost as perfect a distillation of an intelligent pressure fighter as you can get.

Despite all this he had his flaws, inside the ring and out. He had his weaknesses, (although both his technical skills and defense almost always get underrated) and although for a very long time he beat every top in every division he fought in, the fact that he never really beat an ATG weighs him down somewhat. I don't care about beating the no-hopers, because almost every champion does a fair amount of that, especially one with no amateur career. (I do find it funny that, whether they know it or not, people who say that he always beat nobodies are echoing the trash talk of multiple fighters that Chavez completely pounded. And every single one of those fighters always said that they would be the one to show the world the truth about Julio.)

 

thumbsup Good post, i was gonna respond to him too,but you just said it,he beats Arguello at 140 also. As for 130 im not sure Chavez was already great put I think he was better at 135.

 

Outstanding Champion, one of the ATG pressure fighters, nothing flash just all bizness & one of the best straight right hands i've ever seen, he made that right hand delivery his own, brutal power in both hands a 5* ring general, no escape, only one of the SuperBeasts like Duran could have nullified a 135/prime 140 Chavez.

I've always been of the mind that Chavez being a Don King fighter was proberbly one of the reasons that he had more detractors than he should have had, the politics of the day were poisonous.

 

I don't think top 20 is out of the question though he certainly arrives right on the cusp. The biggest problem with Julio's image in the US is that many are willfully unaware of his pre-Taylor work. And of course, there are the "controversies" which I think are vastly overplayed. The way I see it, he damn near kills Meldrick Taylor and the fanboys are arguing over seconds on a clock. And he fights an absolute stinker with another ATG, Whitaker, (that fight sucked, even being there live), gets a disputed draw, and it's thrust into the collective consciousness as his defining moment. Sure, his act became hard to swallow as he was enveloped in the King Cocoon while his skills deteriorated, but those prime years were something extremely special.