Origin of the term "Philly Shell"

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  1. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    Does anyone know when this originated? And what is the connection with Philadelphia?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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  4. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    Possibly there's a link to Joe Frazier? Obviously his defence is considered more to be the cross-arm defence but that is a precursor to the "Philly Shell." I'm clutching at straws here to make the Philadelphia connection.
     
  5. ripper13

    ripper13 Active Member Full Member

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    i thought the Philly Shell defense was coined in the Fight Night video game series. That type of defense is better known as the Shoulder Roll Defense or the Kronk System.
     
  6. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    Yeah that's what I thought.

    Not sure when Phillly shell was first used, but I've always thought it was just the same as shoulder roll defense.

    I think I've heard Philly shell used when watching James Toney a few times.
     
  7. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I certainly never heard the term until those games came out. Always seems to be michigan fighters that do it.
     
  8. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Honestly I think I actually remember the first time I heard an announcer using the term Philly Shell, it was HBO the night of Toney vs Jirov describing Toney's defence.

    Anyone heard the term used before 03?
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    It actually originated from a type of pastry shell that the Pennsylvania Dutch would make and...no, I don't know either.
     
  10. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    you ****er. :lol:
     
  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    jejejeje:rofl
     
  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Benton has one of the most notable claims to it from a philly fighter, but likely it was being done in various incarnations before and even alongside him.
     
  13. Cheese

    Cheese Member Full Member

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    I've heard people talk about Sugar Ray Robinson using this style as well.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  15. curly

    curly Fastest hands in the West Full Member

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    Fight Night, it is technically called the shoulder roll I believe