forgive me if this has been done before. my grandfather was the one who instilled the love of boxing history in me....and i can remember back in the 70s when i was very small, he'd be showing me what the shoulder roll was like...he'd speak of mike mctigue using it...and others but i dont remember who. so...who would you point to as been the first examples of using it ?
yea...but how much have you seen of that fight ? i'm not disagreeing with you....i have seen more of it than i've seen on youtube....but definitely not seen the full fight......how much of it have you seen ?
Someone once put up I don't know 20 or 30 minutes of the fight. So I would say most of it. Very boring with McTigue pestering with the occasional jab, and rolling and holding. But Siki did nothing as well just banged away. Although it's probably been a couple of years since I've seen it.
Hard to say who did it first, but the first time that I have seen it done was in the Joe Gans-Kid Herman fight, which was in 1907: https://youtu.be/ML5WLvrc0P8?t=8m20s
I think that it was more a case of Siki losing the fight than of McTigue winning it, from what I've read...and from what I've seen of the video on You Tube, McTigue was more aggravting than anything else, with Siki being aggresive but ineffective. McTigue was pretty ineffective too. After all, it was St. Patrick's Day in Ireland.
William Sherriff used a double shoulder roll to great effect. It was usually preceded by the right ham lock and parry.
