Ortiz exposed!

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure if he was exposed, but now we can catch a break from all the talk about him being an invincible beast.
     
  2. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury would quite comfortably outbox him from the distance.
     
  3. mofo2

    mofo2 Active Member Full Member

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    Off the back of that performance we have seen that Ortiz is not at the level some are professing him to be, there wont be a single HW out there that wouldnt fancy there chances of beating him!!
     
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    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    There goes all my vcash...
     
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    In my best Principal Edwards voice...


    Riiiggghhht......
     
  6. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Outboxers maybe. Anyone foolish enough to come straight at him gets destroyed.
     
  7. Absolutely!

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    This was pretty obvious even before this fight. Ortiz has trouble closing distance against taller fighters.

    He'll still smash the crap out of anyone else though.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    A quality fighter should not be totally nullified by an opponent simply running. Yeah, take a few rounds to work out how to cut off the ring, that's to be expected. But to be no more successful after nine, ten, eleven rounds than in the first three, suggests Ortiz is a little one dimensional.
     
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    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Ortiz would have got a 120-105 if he'd taken a book into the ring and sat on his stool to read it. He was exposed because he had no answers to an opponent who got on his bike for 12 rounds.
     
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  10. mofo2

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    Anyone with half of a boxing brain could work him out, he walks straight at his opponent and has very little head movement so he is easy to hit; he basically had a punch bag in front of him last night and yet he still failed to win by KO, so I fail to see how he would destroy any of teh ranked fighters tbh....very average indeed!
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    True and in the later rounds Scott was a far more stationary target, he stood in front of Ortiz with his hands down and seemed pretty comfortable on the ropes slipping the shots from Ortiz with relative ease.

    It's clear Ortiz does well against stationary opponents that stand in front of him like Jennings but when he is required to chase and cut off the ring he's unable to do so effectively, he's not a good pressure fighter, he likes to fight at a measured pace, prefers to sit back and counter an oncoming opponent. Movers and tall super heavies with height and reach advantages are going to give him problems.
     
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    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Thing is, people who say this fight shows AJ would smash Ortiz are missing the point. Joshua brings the fight to his opponents, or he has so far anyway. Approaching a fight with Ortiz in the same way would be risky and take the fight into Ortiz's comfort zone where he can get off his power shots.
     
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  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** off. The Cuban looked good. Has a great southpaw jab and sets everything up with it. The fight was the best thing for him. He worked the whole fight.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    It's still difficult to imagine any of the current heavyweights being clear favourites to beat Ortiz.
    Fury's sitting out this boxing thing at the moment.
    So who's left ?
    Wladmir, we don't know if he has anything left.
    Povetkin .... I can't make him a clear favourite against Ortiz.
    Wilder ? No.
    Parker ? Joshua ? I don't think they're ready.
     
  15. ThatsRight11

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    why? he won every round