Ortiz exposed!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Nov 12, 2016.


  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,729
    6,133
    May 2, 2015
    Not sure if he was exposed, but now we can catch a break from all the talk about him being an invincible beast.
     
  2. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

    971
    151
    Feb 22, 2008
    Tyson Fury would quite comfortably outbox him from the distance.
     
  3. mofo2

    mofo2 Active Member Full Member

    511
    52
    Jan 11, 2008
    Off the back of that performance we have seen that Ortiz is not at the level some are professing him to be, there wont be a single HW out there that wouldnt fancy there chances of beating him!!
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

    27,259
    18,341
    Feb 4, 2012
    There goes all my vcash...
     
  5. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

    38,201
    2,600
    Jul 22, 2004
    In my best Principal Edwards voice...


    Riiiggghhht......
     
  6. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

    8,707
    1,660
    Jul 8, 2010
    Outboxers maybe. Anyone foolish enough to come straight at him gets destroyed.
     
  7. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

    8,707
    1,660
    Jul 8, 2010
    This was pretty obvious even before this fight. Ortiz has trouble closing distance against taller fighters.

    He'll still smash the crap out of anyone else though.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    11,844
    15,621
    Nov 9, 2015
    A quality fighter should not be totally nullified by an opponent simply running. Yeah, take a few rounds to work out how to cut off the ring, that's to be expected. But to be no more successful after nine, ten, eleven rounds than in the first three, suggests Ortiz is a little one dimensional.
     
    HattonsRingPost and KO KIDD like this.
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    11,844
    15,621
    Nov 9, 2015
    Ortiz would have got a 120-105 if he'd taken a book into the ring and sat on his stool to read it. He was exposed because he had no answers to an opponent who got on his bike for 12 rounds.
     
    HattonsRingPost likes this.
  10. mofo2

    mofo2 Active Member Full Member

    511
    52
    Jan 11, 2008
    Anyone with half of a boxing brain could work him out, he walks straight at his opponent and has very little head movement so he is easy to hit; he basically had a punch bag in front of him last night and yet he still failed to win by KO, so I fail to see how he would destroy any of teh ranked fighters tbh....very average indeed!
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

    31,307
    29,485
    Apr 4, 2005
    True and in the later rounds Scott was a far more stationary target, he stood in front of Ortiz with his hands down and seemed pretty comfortable on the ropes slipping the shots from Ortiz with relative ease.

    It's clear Ortiz does well against stationary opponents that stand in front of him like Jennings but when he is required to chase and cut off the ring he's unable to do so effectively, he's not a good pressure fighter, he likes to fight at a measured pace, prefers to sit back and counter an oncoming opponent. Movers and tall super heavies with height and reach advantages are going to give him problems.
     
    KO KIDD and DoubleJab666 like this.
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    11,844
    15,621
    Nov 9, 2015
    Thing is, people who say this fight shows AJ would smash Ortiz are missing the point. Joshua brings the fight to his opponents, or he has so far anyway. Approaching a fight with Ortiz in the same way would be risky and take the fight into Ortiz's comfort zone where he can get off his power shots.
     
    HattonsRingPost likes this.
  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,331
    634
    Jun 16, 2006
    **** off. The Cuban looked good. Has a great southpaw jab and sets everything up with it. The fight was the best thing for him. He worked the whole fight.
     
  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,578
    Nov 24, 2005
    It's still difficult to imagine any of the current heavyweights being clear favourites to beat Ortiz.
    Fury's sitting out this boxing thing at the moment.
    So who's left ?
    Wladmir, we don't know if he has anything left.
    Povetkin .... I can't make him a clear favourite against Ortiz.
    Wilder ? No.
    Parker ? Joshua ? I don't think they're ready.
     
  15. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

    1,096
    148
    Aug 22, 2016
    why? he won every round