Ortiz is a lying HYPOCRITE.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nope, and isn't just arbitrary or over anything petty. It's because of the sum of all evidence about his character.

    Most boxing fans who are actually unbiased and not latent homo enough to fall for his cheesy smile ought to dislike him the more they find out about him, too.

    Cheaters and liars tend not to be well-loved.

    Margarito is ugly and kind of bristly/standoffish in public, so it's perfectly OK for him to be widely disliked. Yet Ortiz has that matinee idol grin and is all "Gee Shucks" Woody Boyd, so what an ******* someone like me has to be to call him on the despicable **** that everybody seems to want to ignore, huh?
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Of course. It's becoming more and more clear that Ortiz is a compulsive liar (Whether he's a total phony to begin with or completely is another story, but obviously probably reality as well). Just take his accounts of the fight in his post fight interview. He was NOT looking at Cortez when Floyd landed the first right hand. He was looking to his right, with Cortez looking the other. He only began to look at Ortiz after he got clocked. But he was just looking in that area. He seemed more spacy then actually engaged on Cortez.

    I think you could speculate that it still doesn't make him a total hypocrite. Maybe he expected the ref to say "Box" or do something more after their initial hug. Still who knows what the hell Ortiz was doing or thinking. Seems to just have wanted to have a way out. Like he just took Mayweather's right hand without even trying to protect himself after getting hit with the left hook.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Have you seen the Alarcon incident?

    For Ortiz to cry foul on anyone hitting on the break is by purest definition hypocrisy.
     
  4. Outboxer

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    :good
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow he did manage to get under your skin, kicking him while he's down however is hardly a show of class, bro! :yep

    He fouled. He was penalized. He apologized. He got knocked out. But sure, give him a little more smack, I mean what did he REALLY do to boxing? Gave another fight of the year candidate, derailed the Berto train, created attention to the sport... what a cheat!
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It sounds like maybe one of us does have some inherent bias, here. :think

    Care to post screenshot of your desktop so we can ascertain there's no "DreamyVictorSmiling.jpg"? :yep

    Again, nothing that offends me about him shouldn't offend any other fan of the sport and of its clean & rule-abiding practitioners. It isn't anything on a personal level with me, it's stuff that should be universally appalling.
     
  7. DobyZhee

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    stuck in a human body that gets telephone sex all the time..:lol:
     
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  9. BigBone

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    There's a giant medieval SNV hunting for the Caxapian Yeti on my desktop, sorry.

    I was among the extremely few, don't remember you being among them, who criticized Ortiz back in the day and actually picked Maidana to stop him mid-fight, pointing out obvious flaws and things some of you just recently found out about his character. Since then however he put some solid, legit, legal, exciting and boxing-positive performances in, showed dedication and hard work and withstood a HELL LOT of smack, so yeah, I don't care about his personal life, but as a fighter he certainly earned my respect. But I guess I'll just read the Roberto Garcia interview again, maybe it nullifies Ortiz's achievements and excitement he gave to the sport. :patsch

    But whatever. I just found it odd that out of all fighters you hate on Vic.
     
  10. Filthy McNasty

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    He sure as **** lied about the blatant head-butt.

    Saying Floyd's head was coming forward and trying to say it wasn't intentional was an unbelievably stupid lie.

    Didn't he see the cameras?
     
  11. sosolid4u09

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    also its not as if ortiz is crying or bitching about it is he.
    hes taking it in his stride and accepting it ''its all part of the game'' and ''thats what happens'' over and over again.
    how does that make him a hypocrit?
    he would be a hypocrit if he came out and started moaning and blaming floyd about it. but hes not. so the word hypocrit really doesnt fit here.

    what goes around comes around fits better
     
  12. BigBone

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    Exactly. Isn't blaming Floyd but the ref who didn't handle the whole thing on top. He also admitted it was an intentional foul and apologized for it. And got penalized. And got knocked out.

    What more these whiners want? Make a GIF of the KO and loop it 100 times, maybe that'll give enough satisfaction. He did something stupid and paid for it, time to move on.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    No, it probably is. But the guy is deranged with reality and compulsively lying that he sees his own version of things

    Ortiz got hit after a deduction. Fighting in the clinch with a ref trying to break you is not exactly the same. Again, I'd really have to see the fight to judge it on its own basis.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The crux of this thread isn't even about his personal life. It's about something Ortiz the fighter did.

    Ortiz the fighter, who risked another man's health and livelihood with a cowardly power punch thrown at someone completely unprepared for it in a moment of vulnerability (making Bika-Mendy look like nothing).

    Ortiz the fighter, who quit against Maidana after the going got a little rougher than he wanted it to. :|

    Ortiz the fighter, who threw a handful of headbutts at Mayweather before finally pushing the man too far and then paying for it.

    He's exciting? Yeah. OK. Great. Lots of fighters are exciting.

    He's come back from setbacks and smack-talk and achieved a lot? Err. OK. He moved up and won a world title, but he did so by targeting one of the most excessively hyped paper titlists in not only the welterweight division but all of boxing.

    Great performances? Yeah, he scraped out the win against the aforementioned overrated Berto (but couldn't stay off the canvas in doing so) - and before that he'd lobbed a pair of stink-bombs in his two prior meetings with elites (or near-elites) since Maidana - inexplicably boxing safety-first against a shot Campbell and then laying off the trigger against Peterson and suffering a draw that was nobody's fault but his own.
     
  15. sosolid4u09

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    i agree with everything you said.

    but i still dont see where the hypocrit part comes in?