Ortiz is a lying HYPOCRITE.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Review the interview with Merchant.

    The first question asked is, "Was it your fault for not paying attention?" (clearly it was)

    "Noooo! No, dude! Not at all! He hit me on the break!" was his response. That isn't verbatim, but from memory it's pretty damn close.

    He's accusing Mayweather (falsely) of doing something that he himself had been guilty of doing in the past (and then lying about/covering up).

    Uh - let me see now. Yeah, that IS hypocrisy. :lol:

    How upset he acted and seemed about it is immaterial. The fact is he made the accusation, and for him of all people to make that particular accusation is just mind-bogglingly and outrageously ostentatious.
     
  2. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Ortiz was the one lacking sportsmanship. Floyd actually looked like he was going to start punching sooner than he did, but he pulled back and tapped Ortiz on the shoulders, then, proceeded on to what they were out there to do, which is very far from hugs and kisses. Victor Ortiz made 4 mistakes within approximately 10 seconds, and to expect to get anything less than knocked the **** out by a fighter of Mayweather's caliber is simply foolish....ESPECIALLY after you just leaped into his face with your head. Floyd should not be getting criticized for doing what he was supposed to be doing.

    Didn't Ortiz see the Mayweather-Mosley fight?
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You must feel much better now that you let it all out. Maybe there's some hypocrisy in it after all.

    But you know what is a solid case of hypocrisy? Pointing all this out in a FLOYD MAYWEATHER fight, who does every dirty trick by the book, just so used to it he does it the way refs and causal fans don't even notice.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You mean the elbows/stiff-arms and ducking below the waist? Yeah, Mayweather has some rule-breaking habits. Those kind of pale in comparison to that headbutt, don't you think?

    Or to laying Alarcon out flat and risking real damage to his health and livelihood with a full-power uppercut to the bottom of the chin thrown past the referee when Alarcon's hands were at his sides and his posture completely relaxed and unawares?
     
  5. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    This is obvious, but what he's stated is a fact. He's not blindingly hating.
     
  6. sosolid4u09

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    ortiz claims he didnt hear cortez say fight.
    hell even floyd didnt confirm that cortez said fight! truth is we dont know for sure if cortez did say fight in. also what if ortiz didnt hear him? floyd himself said in the post fight presser ''fighters dont always hear what the ref saying''. if that was the case of course ortiz will feel he got hit out of a break.

    ortiz isnt bitching about it. hes simply saying he didnt hear cortez say fight in so STUPIDLY assumed its ok to hug and kiss your opponent :lol:.

    im sure youve seen the entire post fight presser and ortiz repeatedly says it was his own fault he lost. he says he learnt his lessons etc etc.
    if ortiz was being a hypocrit he would be throwing a tantrum saying floyd cheated. he hasnt
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Blind haters can be funny. Intelligent ones however far less often.
     
  8. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Don't be shy IB....tell us how you feel.
     
  9. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I chalk it all up to being young and dumb. I don't believe his intentions are bad.

    He's exciting to watch but he lacks the mental make up to fight at a world class level.
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So... you're saying Ortiz did the same thing Floyd did but got disqualified for it; whereas all Floyd got a KO victory and a cheap, easy way out of a tough fight and somehow that's pointing out something bad about ORTIZ and not Gayweather?
     
  11. David Fanning

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    What exactly could you have disqualified Mayweather for?

    The cheap, easy way out wasn't Mayweather's fault, it was Ortiz' fault. And very poor defense, I might add.
     
  12. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Right. He apologized to Floyd in the ring like 10 times.

    And then we have this:

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    Merchant: Was it your fault for not protecting yourself at all times?

    Ortiz: No no no, absolutely not. I was called a break by the referee, so I obeyed exactly as I was told...

    And more importantly, this:

    Merchant: ... when you had him on the ropes, and... you butted him! Was that some reflex action or...

    Ortiz: I was going back, and then he pushed me a little bit so I went back and (mumbles)... so it looked like I did it intentionally, but... you know it happens! I even apologized to him so.. I mean I am really sorry for that, I am not a dirty fighter..

    Merchant: So you're saying you were just trying to jump on him and your head...

    Ortiz: He came forward very fast, I wasn't expecting that, and my head was in his face so I went like 'oh! oops!'. So as far as I am concerned I am sorry for that but...

    Merchant: Why do you apo... You seem apologetic.. but... then you got together with him, what did you say to each other?

    Ortiz: I said 'I am sorry Floyd I didn't mean to do that bro, sorry my bad man, my bad, lets do this'.

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    :roll:

    All that is EXACTLY what was said. So I'm pointing out/asking mr Ortiz:

    1. The ref said 'lets go' and brought his hands together and then started stepping out of the way. So you're lying about the 'break' part.

    2. If it wasn't intentional, WHY THE **** are you 'really sorry for that' and why did you feel the need to apologize 50 times since it happened?

    3. Since you were done apologizing to Floyd (for like the 10th time) and you told him 'lets do this', which means YOU KNEW you had to go back to fighting the next second, why didn't you protect yourself after the hug and you're blaming all the others for your stupidity?

    PLUS, it's obvious that Merchant is fired up with Floyd, and he is way wrong in his approach during the Ortiz interview. Yes, he HAD TO BE apologetic, and yes he is the biggest reason this fight was ****ed up like it did.
     
  13. perspicacity

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    Nice post IB, Ortiz went in with the head repeatedly and let's face it, he was in deep water and knew it.

    There's no need to raise awareness of his past to the man himself, maybe that's why he was all smiley for the most part afterwards, .... but do you get the feeling we'll be hearing a lot about "good guy" Vic in upcoming build-ups to his future fights? :yep

    I'm still reeling from the whole debacle :huh
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ortiz deserved the DQ. Mayweather deserved the KO win. Different circumstances, as have been explained and contrasted. Apparently you feel differently about the deservedness of one or both results. That is a real shame. My heart goes out to you. Try to focus now, though.

    Ortiz has a past history of throwing true cheap shot KO sucker-punches on the break (and got rightfully DQed for it). HE of all people then lodges a very dubious claim that his opponent did the same to him. He is hiding behind an aura of being victimized in a situation where he wasn't, and the bogus charge he is levying in such a good-natured and laid-back manner (cloaking the fact that he IS assigning undue blame to Mayweather; just doing so in an inoffensive way and "killing with kindness" pretending to be all dopy and "no biggie, dude!") is something that he himself has on his dirty ***** move rap sheet. The ****ing gall. :lol:

    Yeah, that is something bad about HIM.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    I'm gon' SCHOOL these crackas! :ibutt