Ortiz is a lying HYPOCRITE.

KillSomething · Sep 18, 2011

sosolid4u09 said: ↑

ortiz claims he didnt hear cortez say fight.
hell even floyd didnt confirm that cortez said fight! truth is we dont know for sure if cortez did say fight in. also what if ortiz didnt hear him? floyd himself said in the post fight presser ''fighters dont always hear what the ref saying''. if that was the case of course ortiz will feel he got hit out of a break.

ortiz isnt bitching about it. hes simply saying he didnt hear cortez say fight in so STUPIDLY assumed its ok to hug and kiss your opponent .

im sure youve seen the entire post fight presser and ortiz repeatedly says it was his own fault he lost. he says he learnt his lessons etc etc.
if ortiz was being a hypocrit he would be throwing a tantrum saying floyd cheated. he hasnt
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He said 'let's go' with both fighters in a neutral corner, motioning to them to fight. That means fight.

IntentionalButt said: ↑

He committed the SAME offense that Mayweater allegedly perpetrated against him, early in his career against Corey Alarcon.

The difference? IN ORTIZ'S CASE IT WAS ACTUALLY DIRTY, AS IT WAS ACTUALLY DURING AN ORDERED BREAK. :deal

From the RBR:

In a situation where the referee's hands were ON each boxer, spread apart and physically moving them backward away from each other - Ortiz threw a blatant cheating uppercut on the break and knocked Alarcon out cold. He then moans about how he got a raw deal in being disqualified, and the mutters some nonsense about the referee saying to "box out" when the referee was clearly non-verbally communicating to them to BACK UP and break clean with his hands pushing them apart as he got between them. Furthermore, I suspect he and his management team have used his growing influence and star power/financial backing to intimidate anyone who had footage of the bout up on sites like Youtube into taking them down, probably with phony accusations of copyright infringement or something. You would think that a rising STAR prospect would have even his early televised bouts available to view online if possible, right? Especially if they want to play the "victim" card and act like he was wrongfully disqualified. What is there to hide? THE FACT THAT HE FOULED, AND WAS IN THE WRONG.

Then, in a situation where Cortez had already waved his hands together (the old Incredible Hulk thunderclap motion) and said "Let's go!" before averting his eyes for a moment for who knows what reason (Joe Walcott to the courtesy phone, please..) - Ortiz touches gloves with Mayweather, and then keeps talking and outstretching his arms for yet ANOTHER hug after the ceremonial glove touch to effectively write the issue off as dropped. Mayweather looks him dead in the eye and in a sudden moment of remembrance of how this phony smiling ******* had just RAMMED his huge head into his mouth while pinning him in the corner, throws a powerful left hook into the offender's face. Then a right hand to knock him out cold while Ortiz failed to gather his wits and defend himself during the entire second and a half he had to do so after getting clocked by the hook. He then moans about how Mayweather hit him on the break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! atsch

THE SAME GUY WHO SIX YEARS EARLIER IN HIS FIRST LOSS, REFUSED TO ABIDE BY A CLEAR COMMAND AND GESTURE TO BREAK CLEAN, ACCUSES SOMEONE ELSE OF HITTING HIM ILLEGALLY ON A BREAK EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS PLAIN FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE THAT CORTEZ HAD WAVED THEM ON, AND THAT MAYWEATHER AND ORTIZ HAD TOUCHED GLOVES AND BEGUN TO SEPARATE FROM THE INITIAL LEAN-IN/HUG AND STARED AT EACH OTHER FOR NEARLY A FULL PREGNANT SECOND BEFORE MAYWEATHER NARROWED HIS EYES INTO SLITS AND COCKED AND THREW THAT LEFT HOOK WHILE THE MORON ORTIZ WENT FOR A THIRD HUG!!!!! atsch

HYPOCRITE!

What goes around comes around.

Corey Alarcon should send Floyd Mayweather Jr. a thank-you card and a fruit basket.
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I didn't know about either of those incidents. I hate the little ****er even more now.

i never liked him, primarily for the way he acts and how he:

1. Quit vs Maidana and then acted like it was okay.

2. Played the victim when people made fun of him for being a quitter.

3. Ran away from Nate ****ing Campbell.

4. Just sucked major donkey balls against Peterson.

5. Took his foot off the gas down the stretch vs Berto (that fight was nowhere near as exciting as it's made out to be)

6. Constantly brings up his childhood, which nobody gives a **** about. Go talk to Edison Miranda and Ricardo Mayorga, *****.

And then I read this interview from Robert Garcia, who I consider a g and a credible, nice guy: http://fighthype.com/pages/content10772.html

Ortiz is the exact sort of guy I have a problem with. Only cares about himself and willing to throw anyone else under the bus to become successful. Lies about his own father to try to make himself seem like a hard man when in reality he's just a spoiled little *****.

And then he pulled this stunt last night and still tries to make himself out to be the victim. That apologizing and kissing was cringeworthy and I'm glad Mayweather put a stop to it. The only time a fighter is that overly sportsmanlike is when he knows he's ****ed up and is scared of the consequences. In other words, he was being a coward.

And now I find out he's done this **** before, against inferior opponents no less. The guy is a ****up and I wish him the absolute worst in life.

David Fanning · Sep 18, 2011

IntentionalButt said: ↑

I'm gon' SCHOOL these crackas!
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Don't tease me ****er.

ONE WEEK TO GO!

David Fanning · Sep 18, 2011

Jesus Christ just kill 'em.

Drew101 · Sep 18, 2011

Upon another review of the fight, Ortiz's behavior seems even more inexplicable than it did when I watched it live.

Mayweather looks ready to resume fighting the moment he steps out of the corner, and pauses when Victor apologizes and adds the embrace. This after he had already touched gloves with Ortiz as he was making his way to the neutral corner. He then brings his hands up into guard position (a clear signal to Ortiz that he should do the same, especially after he had whispered "let's do this" to Mayweather) connects with the hook...And then pauses, sees the opening when Ortiz refuses to lift his hands and ends matters with the right.

Mayweather was under no obligation to accept the Ortiz apology, having already done so. So why was it offered in the first place!? And why wouldn't Ortiz have expected Floyd to retaliate when he had repeatedly using his head as a weapon not only throughout the round, but during the course of the entire fight!?

Somewhere along the way, the wires crossed...just like they did when he was DQ'd against Alacron.

the_truth · Sep 18, 2011

If you heard the press conference Ortiz mentions this:deal, saying earlier in his career he was DQ for something similar. He believe he learn his lesson for that fight and not repeating it over, thats one of the reasons he was waiting for Cortez to give them the signal. Apparently what he thought he learn for that lost was the total opposite. Either way Floyd hit the panic button and had bad intentions even looking at Cortez who was not looking and quickly threw the sucker punch...

bernie4366 · Sep 18, 2011

IntentionalButt said: ↑

Ortiz deserved the DQ. Mayweather deserved the KO win. Different circumstances, as have been explained and contrasted. Apparently you feel differently about the deservedness of one or both results. That is a real shame. My heart goes out to you. Try to focus now, though.

Ortiz has a past history of throwing true cheap shot KO sucker-punches on the break (and got rightfully DQed for it). HE of all people then lodges a very dubious claim that his opponent did the same to him. He is hiding behind an aura of being victimized in a situation where he wasn't, and the bogus charge he is levying in such a good-natured and laid-back manner (cloaking the fact that he IS assigning undue blame to Mayweather; just doing so in an inoffensive way and "killing with kindness" pretending to be all dopy and "no biggie, dude!") is something that he himself has on his dirty ***** move rap sheet. The ****ing gall.

Yeah, that is something bad about HIM.
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No. Ortiz isn't saying **** except he 'learned a lesson'. It's everyone who watched the fight and paid 70 bucks to see it end on a sucker punch that's saying **** about it.

IntentionalButt · Sep 18, 2011

bernie4366 said: ↑

No. Ortiz isn't saying **** except he 'learned a lesson'. It's everyone who watched the fight and paid 70 bucks to see it end on a sucker punch that's saying **** about it.
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I'm not talking about what he said in the press conference. I'm talking about what he said in the immediate interview with Merchant, right after the meltdown between Mayweather and Merchant. His first gut reaction to the very first question asked was to cast aspersions. I'm addressing that.

CarlesX7 · Sep 18, 2011

Drew101 said: ↑

Upon another review of the fight, Ortiz's behavior seems even more inexplicable than it did when I watched it live.

Mayweather looks ready to resume fighting the moment he steps out of the corner, and pauses when Victor apologizes and adds the embrace. This after he had already touched gloves with Ortiz as he was making his way to the neutral corner. He then brings his hands up into guard position (a clear signal to Ortiz that he should do the same, especially after he had whispered "let's do this" to Mayweather) connects with the hook...And then pauses, sees the opening when Ortiz refuses to lift his hands and ends matters with the right.

Mayweather was under no obligation to accept the Ortiz apology, having already done so. So why was it offered in the first place!? And why wouldn't Ortiz have expected Floyd to retaliate when he had repeatedly using his head as a weapon not only throughout the round, but during the course of the entire fight!?

Somewhere along the way, the wires crossed...just like they did when he was DQ'd against Alacron.
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I really think he regreted being such an ******* with the headbutt and he was guilty and confused from that point on. He knew he acted as a complete bum and knew everyone saw it. But he's the one who started all that, I blame him almost entirely for what happened.

Samurai's Slice · Sep 18, 2011

IntentionalButt said: ↑

He committed the SAME offense that Mayweater allegedly perpetrated against him, early in his career against Corey Alarcon.

The difference? IN ORTIZ'S CASE IT WAS ACTUALLY DIRTY, AS IT WAS ACTUALLY DURING AN ORDERED BREAK. :deal

From the RBR:

In a situation where the referee's hands were ON each boxer, spread apart and physically moving them backward away from each other - Ortiz threw a blatant cheating uppercut on the break and knocked Alarcon out cold. He then moans about how he got a raw deal in being disqualified, and the mutters some nonsense about the referee saying to "box out" when the referee was clearly non-verbally communicating to them to BACK UP and break clean with his hands pushing them apart as he got between them. Furthermore, I suspect he and his management team have used his growing influence and star power/financial backing to intimidate anyone who had footage of the bout up on sites like Youtube into taking them down, probably with phony accusations of copyright infringement or something. You would think that a rising STAR prospect would have even his early televised bouts available to view online if possible, right? Especially if they want to play the "victim" card and act like he was wrongfully disqualified. What is there to hide? THE FACT THAT HE FOULED, AND WAS IN THE WRONG.

Then, in a situation where Cortez had already waved his hands together (the old Incredible Hulk thunderclap motion) and said "Let's go!" before averting his eyes for a moment for who knows what reason (Joe Walcott to the courtesy phone, please..) - Ortiz touches gloves with Mayweather, and then keeps talking and outstretching his arms for yet ANOTHER hug after the ceremonial glove touch to effectively write the issue off as dropped. Mayweather looks him dead in the eye and in a sudden moment of remembrance of how this phony smiling ******* had just RAMMED his huge head into his mouth while pinning him in the corner, throws a powerful left hook into the offender's face. Then a right hand to knock him out cold while Ortiz failed to gather his wits and defend himself during the entire second and a half he had to do so after getting clocked by the hook. He then moans about how Mayweather hit him on the break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! atsch

THE SAME GUY WHO SIX YEARS EARLIER IN HIS FIRST LOSS, REFUSED TO ABIDE BY A CLEAR COMMAND AND GESTURE TO BREAK CLEAN, ACCUSES SOMEONE ELSE OF HITTING HIM ILLEGALLY ON A BREAK EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS PLAIN FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE THAT CORTEZ HAD WAVED THEM ON, AND THAT MAYWEATHER AND ORTIZ HAD TOUCHED GLOVES AND BEGUN TO SEPARATE FROM THE INITIAL LEAN-IN/HUG AND STARED AT EACH OTHER FOR NEARLY A FULL PREGNANT SECOND BEFORE MAYWEATHER NARROWED HIS EYES INTO SLITS AND COCKED AND THREW THAT LEFT HOOK WHILE THE MORON ORTIZ WENT FOR A THIRD HUG!!!!! atsch

HYPOCRITE!

What goes around comes around.

Corey Alarcon should send Floyd Mayweather Jr. a thank-you card and a fruit basket.
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Your right he is. That headbutt has because he was being ******ed thinking he will KO Floyd in 1 Round and " To his surprise " he couldn't. So he got a little pissed off and headbutted. ( actually, A video I saw revealed 3 headbutts overall. That is wrong, yet he is whining about Floyd using shoulders. So he says sorry three times, starts to look like a suck up and then Money schooled him. Sure the Suckerpunch was disrespectful and wrong to do, unsportsmanlike ect. But he was too busy kissing Floyd to fight.

But Floyd haters are too angry about the damn Sucker punch to see what Ortiz did. Both bad. But Ortiz's action was illegal.

E30 · Sep 18, 2011

IntentionalButt said: ↑

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Cableaddict · Sep 18, 2011

BigBone said: ↑

There's a giant medieval SNV hunting for the Caxapian Yeti on my desktop, sorry.
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Dude, that's pretty gay.

Fighting Pride · Sep 18, 2011

Otiz isn't really complaining about it. From I've gathered out of the post fight reaction, he believes it was unfair, but things like that happen in boxing and he won't dwell on it. If he's done it in the past himself, I bet he won't be making too much of it.

Lance_Uppercut · Sep 18, 2011

IntentionalButt said: ↑

He committed the SAME offense that Mayweater allegedly perpetrated against him, early in his career against Corey Alarcon.

The difference? IN ORTIZ'S CASE IT WAS ACTUALLY DIRTY, AS IT WAS ACTUALLY DURING AN ORDERED BREAK. :deal

From the RBR:

In a situation where the referee's hands were ON each boxer, spread apart and physically moving them backward away from each other - Ortiz threw a blatant cheating uppercut on the break and knocked Alarcon out cold. He then moans about how he got a raw deal in being disqualified, and the mutters some nonsense about the referee saying to "box out" when the referee was clearly non-verbally communicating to them to BACK UP and break clean with his hands pushing them apart as he got between them. Furthermore, I suspect he and his management team have used his growing influence and star power/financial backing to intimidate anyone who had footage of the bout up on sites like Youtube into taking them down, probably with phony accusations of copyright infringement or something. You would think that a rising STAR prospect would have even his early televised bouts available to view online if possible, right? Especially if they want to play the "victim" card and act like he was wrongfully disqualified. What is there to hide? THE FACT THAT HE FOULED, AND WAS IN THE WRONG.

Then, in a situation where Cortez had already waved his hands together (the old Incredible Hulk thunderclap motion) and said "Let's go!" before averting his eyes for a moment for who knows what reason (Joe Walcott to the courtesy phone, please..) - Ortiz touches gloves with Mayweather, and then keeps talking and outstretching his arms for yet ANOTHER hug after the ceremonial glove touch to effectively write the issue off as dropped. Mayweather looks him dead in the eye and in a sudden moment of remembrance of how this phony smiling ******* had just RAMMED his huge head into his mouth while pinning him in the corner, throws a powerful left hook into the offender's face. Then a right hand to knock him out cold while Ortiz failed to gather his wits and defend himself during the entire second and a half he had to do so after getting clocked by the hook. He then moans about how Mayweather hit him on the break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! atsch

THE SAME GUY WHO SIX YEARS EARLIER IN HIS FIRST LOSS, REFUSED TO ABIDE BY A CLEAR COMMAND AND GESTURE TO BREAK CLEAN, ACCUSES SOMEONE ELSE OF HITTING HIM ILLEGALLY ON A BREAK EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS PLAIN FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE THAT CORTEZ HAD WAVED THEM ON, AND THAT MAYWEATHER AND ORTIZ HAD TOUCHED GLOVES AND BEGUN TO SEPARATE FROM THE INITIAL LEAN-IN/HUG AND STARED AT EACH OTHER FOR NEARLY A FULL PREGNANT SECOND BEFORE MAYWEATHER NARROWED HIS EYES INTO SLITS AND COCKED AND THREW THAT LEFT HOOK WHILE THE MORON ORTIZ WENT FOR A THIRD HUG!!!!! atsch

HYPOCRITE!

What goes around comes around.

Corey Alarcon should send Floyd Mayweather Jr. a thank-you card and a fruit basket.
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Probably true. Doesn't erase a win via suckerpunch. that's the bottom line and what goes on the record and the history books.

Jaguar · Sep 18, 2011

Nice post IB.

*******s...

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LastQuark · Sep 18, 2011

Here's Ortiz right after the fight:

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Smiling and continues to be apologetic to Floyd after he got ambushed. This guy does not deserve to be fighting at the top level.

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