Ortiz Jr would be a walk in the park

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    For both Taylor and Prograis.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Vergil sends the Rougarou whimpering back into the Bayou, and a tiny weak ass Tartan Tornado's get gobbled up by a Texas Tornado any day of the week.
     
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  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    He was getting tagged and timed alot by oroczo, not much brains. Taylor would definitely time him and stop him.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    That's because Orozco is a damn good and highly skilled fighter himself with a fairly impressive record, he's easily as good as most of the guys on Taylor and Prograis resume barring Postol, I'd give him a good shot at beating Baranchyk, Relikh, Ramos, Indongo, Martin and I know he'd beat Vasquez and Davies.
     
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    Also, damn he's 21.:deal: That was impressive as hell for literally a kid.
     
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  6. lepinthehood

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    Yeh he looked pretty crafty but not nearly as crafty as Taylor or prograis. Ortiz Jr is going to fall in love with that style and when he hits the top he's going to be picked off.
     
  7. CST80

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    Not yet. But give him a fight or two against some more skilled operators, it';ll all start coming together even more than it already has for him, which is scary to imagine an even more well refined version of Vergil.
     
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  8. Badbot

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    Give him a few years and it will be a different story.
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Honestly, vergil's balance is AMAZING. Really good skills.

    Is he destined for glory?
    I think yes. BUT, he will trade blood for glory. That's not good for him.

    It's obvious that he trusts 190% his power. And the fighters like that usually are willing to trade 1 for 1, or even 1 for 2, or even 1 for 3. And vergil is no exception.

    He was lucky that orozco couldnt punch for ****, plus imho he lost basically every round untill his power solved his problems.

    What happens to vergil? his boxing is not exploitable at this level, his boxing can only be exploited at the very very very highest level. That said, once he gets there, imho he will be milked like a cow.

    Nonetheless, he has everything that cannot be learnt (well, exept the jaw, we dont know that), and all he lacks can be learnt. So, he's young enough to learn and to make everything I said here false.
     
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  10. TheMotorCityCobra

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    Exactly, he’s absolutely going to get better and better as he ages and progresses through the ranks. After the fight, even Verg said he was disappointed in his performance even though he had just iced a quality operator who had never been stopped. He’s going to be an absolute monster by the time he’s 25. Monster. He’s only freakin 21!
     
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  11. Pakkuman

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    Vergil is 21, but looks 30-32.

    :eek:
     
  12. Pakkuman

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    That's 2 crafty fighters in a row that have never been stopped.
     
  13. lepinthehood

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    reckon taylor and prograis would have stopped em.

    ortiz jr should fight postol and see how he does.
     
  14. Pakkuman

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    Maybe. Danny and Ruslan weren't able to stop Mauricio. Granted, he was faded, but still.
     
  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    At 21 mayweather was kicking hernández ass. And canelo was fighting the best of bests in the world. The same for pacquiao.

    This kid has a lot of potential, that's true. But let's not go crazy, he's what he's. If he doesnt improve he will get his ass kicked at the highest level (not before, his power wouldnt allow that). I dont recall giving him a single round, btw, if you ask me, I would swear that he was losing the fight 0-5. Impressive? well.... you know... yes, but...

    The good thing? he's aware that he didnt perform well, if he learns what he needs to learn, that's true that he will be a freaking MONSTER. But he needs to continue working, and needs to work A LOT.

    On the other hand I think that robert garcía cannot teach him very much more, I think that he has already taught him everything useful he can transmit to him. I love garcía, you can read anything I have written before about him, I absolutely think he's an amazing trainer, but imho his fighters eat too much punches for my taste. Hard to explain, I dont know if I made my point clear, not important, though.
     
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