Your official opinion now before history gets rewritten by the lemmings Sunday morning. The Maidana Debacle: Did Victor Ortiz fully redeem himself with the manner of victory and result of his championship winning effort against Andre Berto? (There's a good chance nobody is going to give a **** this time next week.)
I hop Victor comes to fight and doesnt quit when Floyd takes him in deep water. I hope after the fight he gets back in the gym and focuses on getting his belt back
He redeemed himself with the Berto performance obviously, fought through adversity to get the W. However it proved little as to what level he is actually on, given Berto's questionable reputation as a proven top level fighter and the wild nature of the fight. I would've liked to have seen him take a couple more fights against good welters before facing someone on Mayweather's level. Unfortunately Mayweather jumped right on the hype knowing Ortiz's style does not bode well for a long reign at the top level, and Ortiz couldn't pass it up.
He redeemed himself in terms of showing he has the heart to fight through some real adversity in the ring. In terms of how good a fighter he'll turn out to be and how long he can operate on a relatively high level has yet to be seen.
So far I'm thinking I've created the most confusing thread in recent memory. I am high as a kite right now..
He redeemed his quitting against Maidana. HOWEVER, beating Berto didn't propel him into the "Holy crap Victor is back and better than ever" in MY OWN OPINION because I wasn't sold on Berto and he let the fight against Peterson get away enough to draw despite knockdowns.
I agree, I don't think Victor propelled himself into the ranks of the elite with the Berto victory since many felt that Berto himself hadn't proven himself to be an elite fighter either. But for sure, he redeemed what he lost when he quit against Maidana. Not only because he got back up from being dropped.. even the way he looked was different, he really did look like a man possessed against Berto. A far cry from the bewildered, "wtf is this guy doing to me" look he had against Maidana.
He showed he had heart, but considering how prone he was to trading punches with total disregard shows that he still has limited skill. Not enough to be effective against Mayweather, at least. It will be much like the Hatton fight. Maybe a couple good first rounds, but he will get figured out and broken down and possible stopped much like Hatton did; walking into a big punch.
He did redeem himself, for sure. However, the fact that he did quit, will never go away. There's always a chance that could happen again. I mean, Amir Khan taking bombs from Maidana doesn't dispel the fact that he still has a weak chin, and can be blown away again by the next big puncher he faces. With Ortiz, his brave showing against Berto and the likely enthusiastic effort he'll put up against Floyd, may be just a brief thing before he goes back to the old Ortiz. Who knows. His story is still being written. I can't comment properly until all is said and done.