Ortiz quitting after start of round 8?

Ortiz is a warrior he’s not going to ***** out mid rounds just because his opponent has been given preferential treatment.

On the other hand his trainer should have been kicking up a fuss at that time and immediately after in the press conference. I can think of quite a few trainers who would have flipped out right there.

 

What crazy outcome did you imagine OP?

 

it didnt make any sense to me, but apparently its a rule in NY or so some people are saying. Its a damn strange rule though, 2 guys whose aim is to win by knocking the other one out but when one gets close to it they stop to make sure he is alright making it harder for the other guy to do what the aim is in the 1st place.

If the ref wasnt happy with how Wilder was looking just stop the fight, not pause it, its not football. He was quick enough to stop it in the 10th, Ortiz was pretty much done but he didnt even have a look or start a count he waved it off as if Ortiz was out cold, which he wasnt, it was worth a count.

Saying all that, i dont think 30 seconds given to Wilder was a game changer nor do i think Ortiz had anything left in the 10th, im just saying those 2 little moments had a slight fishy smell about them.

 

Actually, Ortiz got a long count after the first knockdown in the 10th and the ref gave him several extra seconds after the 8 count asking are you OK, give me your gloves, um, give me your gloves man, never mind I’ll just grab them myself, now are you sure you are OK, by which I mean do you want to continue, etc?

The doctor wanting to check out a fighter to make sure he’s fit to continue does not mean the fight should be stopped. Under the updated NYSAC rules, he can do that at any time. If he checks out the fighter and determines the fighter is not alert, he stops it. But he has to look into his eyes and examine him for concussion symptoms, which cannot be done from a seat across the ring.

What you are saying is the equivalent of saying if a fighter is cut and the doctor wan’ts to check it out, they should just stop the fight whether the cut is bad or not ... because the doctor wanted to look at it, must be bad enough?

 

Needs to look into his eyes? 30 seconds? What are they? In love? And its not like a doc looking at a cut, thats understandable. And as a new rule that is a rule that can be absolutly abused.

 

Isn't it a new rule put in place after some guy died? Could that extra time have saved his life if the doctor had called off the fight? I am not complaining if that's the case, but it dose sound like something that could be abused too.

 

He was checking for a concussion.

 

Well they should of stopped the action for twenty seconds after the first two Ortiz knock downs to double check if he had a concussion also.

Since its a normal thing to do correct?

 

Ref's discretion.

 

Yep i hear you.

 

watching it again wilder walked straight back to his corner straight and unassisted and sat in his stool tall and coherent. he was fine walking back i don't think it changed the outcome

the doc could have done it during the break but this has happened before

 

THEY DID STOP THE ACTION FOR 20 SECONDS when Wilder dropped Ortiz in the final round. He drops him at the 1:25 mark. Action doesn't resume until the 1:05 mark. That's 20 seconds.

The first time Wilder dropped him, at the end of the fifth, he drops Ortiz with 12 seconds left in the round. The bell doesn't ring and Ortiz isn't escorted to his corner for another 16 or 18 seconds.

Ortiz got extra time BOTH TIMES he was dropped.

A standing eight count means you get EIGHT seconds to compose yourself. Not 20 seconds.

The referee is supposed to be checking your eyes to make sure you're okay WHILE counting to eight. He's not supposed to count to eight and THEN spend 10 to 12 seconds asking you if you're okay.

It's a STANDING EIGHT count, not a STANDING 20-COUNT.

 

I agree. Nobody ran over to him at the end of the seventh and escorted him back to his corner. He walked back just fine.

The doctor should not have waited until the start of the eighth to check Wilder's eyes, but the fact is it took all of 10 seconds for him to do that. It wasn't 30 SECONDS or whatever people are whining about.

The doctors working that fight Saturday were a mess. They almost stopped Dirrell's opponent from fighting, they almost stopped Ortiz from fighting.

Good thing for Wilder he didn't have a cut lip or something or they may have called an ambulance.

Those physicians needed to 'nut up.'

 

This rule can also save lives.

How is a doctor supposed to check for concussion or brain injury? It was about 20 seconds total delay, including his walk across the ring. Ortiz got a couple of long counts and extra time after the counts.

The idea that if the doctor wants to check someone out the fight should be stopped is stupid. If the fighter is fine and the doctor is satisfied, why stop it? Just because he had a concern and wanted to know for sure? That’s silly.

Also, Ortiz was punched out from his output in the 7th to try to get Wilder out of there. The extra time also benefitted him. (It’s not like Wilder stumbled across the ring and recovered while the doc was looking at him.) And even with the extra time Ortiz didn’t exactly rush out and unload ... so I don’t buy any argument that he would have done so had the doctor not checked.

I understand you want to discredit Wilder for a quality victory, but this is just grasping at straws.