Ortiz really should of beaten Wilder in both fights

2nd fight he just got KO'd, simple as.

1st fight, the fight could have easily been stopped in the 7th when Ortiz was pummelling Wilder, and the ref gave Wilder an extra 30 seconds to recover at the 8th.

Ortiz was perhaps a bit unfortunate and proved what level Wilder is. A shade better than Ortiz.

 

Doesn't say much. Even Spzilka and Washington were outboxing Wilder before they got caught with big shot.

 

Basically.

 

After the first fight I'm not sure he'd ever beat Wilder if I'm honest. That was his best chance when Wilder didn't know what he was getting himself into and had a ref save him from defeat.

Ortiz is a counter puncher with slow feet, he's never going to be effective enough at pressing to break a Wilder down who's just content to lose round after round and wait til Ortiz tires and slows down enough to land a right hand. That's what we saw in the rematch and what we'd see in any future fights between them.

 

People need to internalise this:

"Since his pro debut as a 23 year old, Wilder has amassed a 92.5% KO ratio across 40 fights (38 wins, 1 draw, 1 KO loss) against 215+ lbs opponents: the highest percentage of any heavyweight champion in history (despite being outweighed in 37/40 of those fights, often by 20+ lbs, and 20 fights since mid-2012) and 18 of the KO’s came in the 1st round. Wilder was even able to land critical right hand bombs on a rusty and poorly conditioned but extremely fast, agile, long and defensively skilled Fury (257 lbs, 27-0) which shows us just how skilled he is at landing his Sunday punch. Olympian Breazeale (255 lbs, 20-1) was a tough man who took some knocking out: AJ needed more than 6 rounds and 166 punches for the referee to step in but Wilder ended the fight in the 1st round with a single punch. If it were so easy to spark Breazeale then AJ would have done so rather than wear him down with a vast accumulation of blows. The evidence tells us that Wilder's explosive one-punch power is levels above AJ's and combined with his superior speed, length, agility, durability, stamina, confidence, heart, determination, fighting instincts, experience, unconventionality, unpredictability and ease of underestimation, he would be extremely dangerous for virtually any heavyweight in history."

 

Kownacki would run through Wilders resume.

 

He couldn't run through Helenius and got KO'd in 4, who got stopped in 6 and 8 by Wilder-victims Duhaupas and Washington.

 

He beat Spilka faster than Wilder did doe.

 

Even somebody who started boxing late and has no fundamentals could beat everyone on Wilder's resume. Oh wait...

 

Non-shot Szpilka was a slick southpaw who can avoid a sniper much better than a mauler like Kownacki or Chisora.

You also have to look at boxing politics: Wilder was up on the cards. How much damage did Wilder take? Very little. He landed a bomb in the 9th and sent Szpilka out on a stretcher, the end.

 

You also need to internalise this:

"Wilder’s exceptional talent was clear from the fact that he won the U.S. National Golden Gloves and the U.S. National Championships in 2007, defeated the Olympic gold medallist and World Championship silver medallist Chakhkiev and won an Olympic bronze medal at HW in 2008 on less than 3 years of boxing experience before he turned 23. He was also earmarked by legendary trainer Manny Steward as the second best heavyweight prospect after Fury in June 2012. Despite Wilder’s reputation as a technically limited KO artist, 18 of his 22 non-walkover wins in the amateurs were by decision. Wilder has been a top 11 Ring ranked heavyweight since December 2013 (when he was a former elite amateur, 30-0 in the pros with 30 KO’s, just over a year before he won the title from 3rd ranked Stiverne) and top 2 or top 3 since 2016."

 

A fresher Arreola knocked out a prime Molina in the first round though, Wilder did not.

Bermaine Stiverne went on to get knocked out two times after his rematch with Wilder.


Yoka knocked out Duhaupus in the first, while it took Wilder 11 rounds to do it.

 

Gerald Washington went on to get knocked out 3 times After his loss to Wilder.

 

Arreola also KO'd Molina faster than AJ and Hrgovic did, who was a Wilder victim by that point with several prior KO defeats. Arreola > Wilder, AJ and Hrgovic. Let's not bother looking at multiple data points.

Stiverne (more inactive in far worse condition if that's even possible) went 6 with contender Joyce and 11 with Bryan after going 1 with Wilder. The win aged well.

Duhaupas is totally shot. It's like saying that Tyson's last two opponents were better than Holyfield and Lewis because they KO'd him faster. If Yoka was such a beast relative to Wilder he would have put away Hammer in France, who had gone 12 with Ortiz and Povetkin prior to that.

 

I’m trying to tell you that Wilder’s entire career is all smoke and mirrors.