Ortiz still hasn't learned his lesson

with that controversy and cheap shots, no, its the contrary. Ortiz just became more famous than ever. people would love to see more of him

 

Can someone **** up on a larger Stage. This guy is ******ed BRO

 

That's because he was confident, and he was whupping Mayweather's ass.

Mayweather made both tactical and fundamental errors that were likely going to cost him the fight.

It's possible that Mayweather's demeanor affected Ortiz psychologicaly and made him feel if as if he wasn't doing any damage, and the headbutt could be considered evidence of this, but now that he's seen the replay, he knows that he was hurting Mayweather and he knows that in a rematch, he will knock Mayweather out.

Ortiz was beggining to time Mayweather, he was conservative with his attack, he put together an excellent body attack, he was countering Mayweather, and he was causing Mayweather to make mistakes.

With the exception of the long combination Mayweather threw where he missed the majority of his punches, Mayweather was relatively one dimensional in this fight offensively, and Ortiz was starting to take away his weapons.

Mayweather was throwing his punches short and Ortiz made adjustments to where many of them would graze the top of his head, or when they did land clean mostly hit his forehead.

Meanwhile, Mayweather abandoned his body attack, wasn't using his legs enough, throwing far more punches than Ortiz, often power shots, and many times missing, and was taking more and more punishment from his younger adversary.

Ortiz size and strength, and body attack combined with Mayweather tactical error's, rustiness, and inability to hurt Ortiz, was causing Mayweather to weaken.

It was only a matter of time with those tactics that eventually Ortiz would catch up to Mayweather and hammer him out or beat the **** out of him.

Either way, Mayweather's chances of winning that fight were diminishing, as was his power because of his workrate, amount of missed punches, and amount of power shots he threw, combined with the body attack Ortiz was having success with.

It was Mayweather that was going to weaknen. Not Ortiz.

You can only speculate that Mayweather would grow stronger because that's what he's done in the past, but there have been many undefeated fighters in history that have been put in a situation where the opposite of what usually happens, occurs.

So the real lesson is, Mayweather had NO INTENTION of giving him a rematch.

ORTIZ WILL BEAT THE **** OUTTA MAYWEATHER if they get a REMATCH and MAYWEATHER KNOWS THIS.

Now, if somehow Mayweather pulls of a Castillo 2 and gets past Ortiz again, he gets a lot of props...

But Floyd's legs don't APPEAR to be what they used to be.

He's very lucky he didn't get knocked out. God apparently has something else planned for him.

But it's not looking good for Mayweather if we can use history as a judge. He has too many "yes" men in his crew. They won't tell him when he's slipping up because they have no clue.

Only his father was trying to speak out...and you see what happened there.

Floyd may very well be finished as a TOP FIGHTER.

Unless of course that was just a bad showing...

Anyway, expect him to take a vacation, and avoid Pac, Martinez, and Ortiz...

If he fights anyone, it will be Khan.

 

Floyd should come back and say 'ok if you don't want money I'll fight you if you fight for free'

 

He doesn't want the fight.

Psychologically, Mayweather may not be the same fighter anymore.

 

You probably are dumbest poster on ESB, psychologically Mayweather is fine why would this fight have any influence on him?? he won all 4 rounds than kod his opponent so it must be hard psychologically for Mayweather :yep

 

Find a new sport, champ.

 

If that's what you believe, that's what you believe.

But how do you explain Mayweather "squealing" around the ring everytime Ortiz landed a shot?

 

Do you think the fight will happen?

Ortiz is willing to fight for free...

That's a win-win situation for Mayweather, why not take the fight?

 

Right now there is no reason for a rematch. Ortiz wins a couple of fights and Floyd is still active in 18 months or so, then maybe.

Ortiz needs to learn a lesson. Floyd was not in the wrong for how the fight ended. The sooner he (and you) realize that, easier it will be for you two to move on.

 

Honestly, against the big three, (Martinez, Ortiz, Pac) if Mayweather's last fight was any indication, his best chance is against Pac because he is significantly smaller than the other two.

HOWEVER, if Mayweather can't hurt Pac, and his legs aren't what they used to be...

Pac eventually will corner Floyd, put him on the ropes, and nail him with combinations as he bounces in and out until Mayweather gets the beating of a lifetime.

This is why the risk is probably too high for Mayweather. He realized against Ortiz that he couldn't hurt him, and this, as well as Ortiz being able to land punches and making Floyd run out of ideas, likely affected Floyd psychologicaly.

He realizes that he's human now...

This could go two ways...

He could use this to get better and maybe get his father back on the team or he can continue with his ways and eventually take a beating of a lifetime unless he chooses to retire or avoids the three fighters I mentioned.

His best bet is to stick to Khan, but Khan has proven to be a relatively difficult adversary.

At this stage in Floyd's career, Khan is no easy task.

 

I never mentioned the way the fight ended in my posts on this particular thread.

Who would you suggest Floyd fights next?

History has shown that he will not fight Pac...

So who then and when?

 

ortiz was wipping PBFs arse?? ..Men lie women lie, scorecards dont.

 

heehee, yup never has a score card been wrong

 

What a poor choice of words.