Ortiz vs Ennis

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JusABoxinFan, Nov 28, 2024.


What your prediction?

  1. Jaron Ennis by KO

  2. Jaron Ennis by Decision

  3. Vergil Ortiz by KO

  4. Vergil Ortiz by Decision

  5. DRAW

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  1. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Looks like it has been agreed to happen February 22nd. Even though Ennis camp tried to push for it to happen at 147lbs (even though claiming that weight was the reason of the lack luster performance in the last bout), it was agreed to happen at 154lbs.

    Who do you got in this match up? & What does it mean for the other to lose? Both of them have been promoted to be the next face of the sport.

    I'm interested to see who is put on the card. I can think of certain match ups that would be perfect for it, but that's another discussion.
     
  2. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Two guys with firepower who are easy to hit. I like ortizs work rate might see him to victory
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    For being a supposed defensive wizard, Boots gets hit. Against Ortiz that's not a good thing.

    Ortiz Via KO.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Slight edge goes to boots for me. Last fight was an umotivated boots who had no respect and probably didn’t prepare properly since he won so easily in the first fight. Vergil is a beast and Ennis will train accordingly.
     
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  5. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I'll take Boots by close decision in an entertaining fight. I like it at 154 as there shouldnt be any weight bs.
     
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  6. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both have power and both are liable to be caught; however the difference in my mind is Ortiz has been dragged into the trenches against Bohachuk and came out the other side. Until I see how Boots reacts to being caught by someone with genuine power, and how he fares in a dogfight, I will back Ortiz.
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ortiz, unanimous decision. i picked ortiz over boots when they were first starting to make noise, and i still think ortiz is the more complete fighter. boots is more athletic, but not stronger or more technically consistent. boots would have benefitted from challenging himself with stiffer competition before facing ortiz. he would be further along in his progression. and i have no confidence in his fathers ability to give correct corner advise when things are going sideways. and theyre gonna go sideways.
     
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  8. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    If one claims to be elite and knowing that you have a lot to prove.....NO OPPONENT should have you "unmotivated"...... Boots has done nothing in the sport that's even comparable to the hype he's received. TF is he unmotivated for?

    And he didn't win the first fight easily. He struggled to cut off the ring vs an opponent who utilized his footwork to stay out of trouble. That's an IQ issue. The rematch, we saw that opponent decide to exchange with Boots and make adjustments. Had that opponent had average power for the division, Boots goes to sleep.

    We gotta stop with the excuses for these world class athletes where their sole job is to be ready to compete. Boots fans, his camp, and close peers claim he "stays in the gym", well, what is he doing? Working out for 15 minutes then sitting and chatting with people coming in and out.

    Pick a side....stop creating a persona of him being next level in work ethic and skillset only to jump to every excuse when he looks average vs average at best competition. It's weird how that is only done for certain fighters..... Errol Spence Jr., Deontay Wilder,....... starting to see a trend. The excuses come vs C average opponents, then they get in the ring with elite level competition and then the cry of foul play and/or excuses of being drained/injured coming into the fight.

    So, February 23rd, should we expect a claim that Vergil had too much "Mexican Meat" while preparing for Boots?.....lol.
     
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  9. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    Ortiz has better experience but I think Ennis has a bit more talent.

    Its a close one but I just edge it to Ennis by decision. Great fight though.
     
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  10. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    Disrespectful to Spence, he was a good champion.
     
  11. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Boots has shown good firepower vs smaller opponents moving up to 147lbs. Karen Chukhadzhian completed 24 rounds vs him. If I was a betting man, I would put my money on Ortiz if they were to exchange in the early rounds.
     
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  12. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    How is it disrespectful?

    No where did I suggest that Spence wasn't a good champion. I addressed that his followers would paint him out to be "indestructible" while it's convenient for bragging rights and then change their energy when an opponent shows the world that he is very much human.

    Feel free to look at the discussions about Spence after his fight vs Danny Garcia and Yordenis Ugas. Look at the bragging the week leading up to the Crawford fight from that side. The tshirts made. The YouTube Channels calling him the eye collector, body snatcher, etc.... The comments on the weigh ins claiming he came in looking ready to hurt Crawford.....48 hours later.......

    I have nothing bad to say about Spence. I'm just addressing the energy change with a certain fanbase's bragging backfires and/or doesn't come to fruition.
     
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  13. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with everything said here, including the comment about Bozy Ennis (dad/coach).... He's done nothing more than brag about his son's abilities but has yet to critique any short comings and/or struggles that he's showcase vs his competition. I always felt like coaches/trainers need to do their job developing the fighter and not try to be the cheerleaders and/or promoters. It creates a false reality for the fighter and fanbase. Realistically, Boots should be fighting Brian Norman Jr. It would have been the perfect match up for his development as a fighter win or lose. As we know now, Eddie Hearn purposely shanked that negotiation as well as the others well as the ones with the other champions at 147lbs.

    I think this fight isn't the best match up for Ennis at this time, but it's definitely a fight that the fans want to see for Ennis, no matter if you are a fan of him or his opponent.
     
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  14. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vergil Ortiz ends the hype if fight is at 154
     
  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz stops Boots if they fight at 154. Ennis shown time and again he is like Julian Williams...fighting harder not smarter. With very little experience against top competition he'll be facing an Ortiz whose already rose above adversity multiple times.

    Vergil via stoppage
     
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