Ortiz vs Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Heavyrighthand, Dec 21, 2017.


Who wins, assuming this fight does happen?

  1. Ortiz

    18 vote(s)
    40.9%
  2. Wilder

    26 vote(s)
    59.1%
  1. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Will it be the end of wilder?
     
  2. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Ill go ahead and say Ortiz KO6.

    Hope Im wrong and that Wilder wins this one.
     
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  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Im hoping Wilders athleticism, length (will be very important here), and Ortiz's age will play pivitol parts to allow Wilder to stay away and cruise to a close but fair decision. Depends a lot on what Wilders plan is. He needs to be smart enough to not want to win impressively here and just try to win rounds from the outside in this one if he can. Tie Ortiz up any time he gets close. Maybe spend this fight trying to be a poor mans Wlad. Jab jab jab grab. Jab jab jab grab. Right hand. Jab jab jab grab.

    Save windmills and bombs for AJ.
     
  4. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Wilder is smart enough to stay away from a powerful sturdy fighter like Ortiz. Wilder will “try” to keep his distance and, as you said, jab to rack up the rounds, trying to not get caught in the process

    but I think Ortiz sees this as a chance he has been waiting for his whole career , and will fight his best fight yet. Ortiz will feel him out, then become very aggressive and chase Wilder into a corner, get inside his long, lackey arm reach, and knock Wilder out as Ortiz is in close where Wilder is defenseless
     
  5. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    28-36 strongest man strength
     
  6. Darxide

    Darxide Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder wins this comfortably. Ortiz does not have the movement to cause Wilder any issues IMHO. If Ortiz does win, it would be disastrous for Wilder and heavyweight boxing, because we won't get to see Joshua vs Wilder anytime soon.
     
  7. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he's had plenty of other chances ffs
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He's been champion two years, has attempted to fight two top HW twice, but twice his opponents tested dirty. Imagine if his opponents would have been clean and Wilder beat them.. he would have the best resume in the HW division save Tyson Fury who is done atm imo.

    Wilder usually gets judged with a different measuring stick than his counterparts. In fact most fighters are held to lower standards.

    It seems like a lot of the Eastern Hemesphere fighters get a pass but American fighters are held to higher standards around here.

    I mean why does Wilder get so much grief for being a 2 year titlist but Golovkin who had the opportunity to fight Ward, or Lara but chose to fight his opposition for 7 years gets a pass.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wrong. If he was framed it would be by the WBC. VADA runs the tests. What the WBC does with the tests is on them. VADA doesn't have any authority to ban or decide what tests to run, they run the tests according to their WADA guidelines. If there was something in his blood/urine regardless of a TUE, they would still find it and report it. That's their job. Now the key is the WBC is supposed to ignore the adverse finding related to the medication and obviously NOT go all viral media on it, which they did. Thus if there was any framing going on and I do believe there was some not so kosher **** going on, it was the WBC.

    And for an example of stupid sanctioning bodies, look at the WBA quickly moving to ban Ortiz for medication he was cleared of eventually. The WBA did not miss a step to ban Ortiz before the medical ruling came down that he was exempt of the adverse findings that VADA was supposed to find (because they are just doing their JOB). Now that after the WBC has cleared Ortiz of the adverse findings, ask yourself if the WBA cleared Ortiz as well? You know they be protecting Joshua from that threat too. lol
     
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  10. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    No point writing out a prediction when the fight won't happen.
     
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  11. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    This
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    To Joshua's fans, Ortiz...and to boxing fans Wilder, but Ortiz has a punchers chance.

    But once they get into the ring, and you Joshua fans see how slow Ortiz is...you'll come around. And we don't care how much either makes. They should be the ones who care. Boxing fans just want to watch lol...
     
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  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    scott took the most obvious dive in history, aside from liston versus clay.
     
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  14. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he could definitely use some rounds against a guy the quality of ortiz.
     
  15. Hope4Better

    Hope4Better Active Member Full Member

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    I am no Wilder fan but if he storms Ortiz wildly he will easily win with a big KO. Hate the man, Yes I do, but he has power that we cannot deny. If he gives Ortiz respect, we could be in for a long boring one, that Wilder still wins on rangey jabs and occasional dance moves that makes justin timberlake and justin bieber jealous.
     
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